BJJ Vs. Sambo

[Zapatista]

It seems just about all the fighters I see on the UFC have some for of Jiu-Jitsu background (mainly Brazilian or Gracie) but I've only seen a couple (actually one) who has a background in Sambo. (that would be Andrei Arlovski, he was a world champ in Sambo before MMA) Now, on another forum somebody said that Arlovski attributed his ground game not to Sambo, but in fact to BJJ. So here's my question: Is Sambo outdated or just not effective and that's why it's not used much in UFC/MMA? or is it just not as popular thus making it harder to find a school and therefore reducing the amount of people training (at least in the U.S)?

Also, what are the differences between GJJ or BJJ and Sambo? I've read and heard that Sambo focuses more on the legs than BJJ does, is that true?

So basically, I'm just looking for your opinion on Sambo and how it relates to BJJ.

Thanks in advance.

[Ego Assassin]

Yes Sambo focuses on leg locks and throws, BJJ mostly armlocks, chokes and sweeps. That is until it came to the U.S and now it has elements from all grappling styles. BJJ in the U.S. has now been combined with Judo, Sambo ,and wrestling and rightfully so because sport is the only reason they were ever seperated. When the Olympics began Wrestling was in from day one but in those days the winner left crippled and the loser died. In fuedal Japan Jiu Jitsu was the dominant art and as Japan moved froward making an effert to be competitive with the rest of the world it exported karate the striking side of Jujitsu and Judo the throws. The ground game was considered brutal and went underground. Jujitsu schools constantly went into other schools to prove their superiority and the practitioners were looked at as thugs.

The Gracies continued the tradition of open challenge and so do many BJJ schools. I tried to be as brief as I could while hopefully shedding some light.

[rb]

Various jujutsu were combined into judo.

Judo gave rise to BJJ and Sambo. Overtime each division incorporated different strategies leading to different strengths.

GJJ is a trademark. As an art GJJ=BJJ.

UFC was created by the Gracies to showcase GJJ. Once everyone saw Royce in there cleaning up everyone jumped on the jiujitsu bandwagon.

Sambo has a small following and it is all overseas in Russia/eastern European countries. UFC draws more on the north american pool where BJJ is popular.

[CagedWarrior]

You know, with a lot of things like that it all ends up the same anyway. And because Sambo, as well as BJJ, practicioners aren't so ridiculously attached to tradition, they "steal" moves from one another until it's all the same sort of thing (grappling) anyway. Maybe BJJ is known for it's guard work... but any Sambo school with half a mind will be teaching guard work as well.

[Ego Assassin]

Various jujutsu were combined into judo.

Judo gave rise to BJJ and Sambo. Overtime each division incorporated different strategies leading to different strengths.

Kano was a JUJITSU Master that took the throws and some ground work and created Judo for school, sport and exercise. Jiu Jitsu came first. Karate was taken from Jiu Jitsu as well.

[Ego Assassin]

P.S. Grappling has firm roots in Rome way before the asians got into it.

And saying that they steal moves is like saying I stole my car after losing it in the parking lot.

Grappling has a birthplace where who knows we can only debate but I can asure you it lacked nothing. I believe this to be true in all fighting styles.

[MATX1]

Both are excellent arts and fun and rewarding sports.

[Goju_boi]

well i would go with sambo just because it's not as common as bjj,but that's me.The hard part would be finding a school in america.I guess they have them in areas with a high amount of people from russia.

[Willannem]

Karate was taken from Jiu Jitsu as well.

Karate was develop'd in Okinawa, independently of jujitsu.

[Goju_boi]

Karate was taken from Jiu Jitsu as well.

Karate was develop'd in Okinawa, independently of jujitsu.

yep.The only style that I see similar to that coment is Wado ryu.Because the styles founder put in a lot of ju jutsu in since he was a master in it as well as shotokan.