scarf hold escapes.

[Adonis]

I need help on this one. I only know 2 or 3 techniques but can't seem to pull them off on any one who is good.

1. I know the one where you get your hips close to there's and roll them over. My opponent keeps moving away from my hips and following me towards my head so I can't get my hips close enough to them to roll them over.

2. clasping my arm and pushing on there head to push them back to use my legs to hook on them to take them over, but they change postion to mount or North/south when I do this and push on the arm so I loose my leverage and postioning for that technique.

3. Last one is if the opponent leaves space with his far arm that is either under hooking ont he shoulder or there arm is under my neck. If they leave space I can slip out and take the back but if some one is playing tight I fill I loose my nechniques and I have to wait till they move to diffrent postion to escape.

Any one know diffrent escapes from Scarf hold position that I can use instead of these. That are some high percentage moves?

[AndrewGreen]

Sounds like you got the basic ideas, likely it is just details missing. I don't think you need to try and add another technique, but rather refine the ones you have and learn to transition from one to another.

Very often a persons defence of one escape will open up the opportunity for another.

One very basic one that isn't in your list (sort of) is just getting to your knees and driving into him. Similar to your 3rd.

But work them in sequence based of the top persons reactions. So if he is moving his hips away from you to avoid being rolled you should be able to push him over backwards or get to your knees. If you want to roll him over you first push into him hard, he will naturally push back, use that momentum.

And remember it is just a pin, if someone really clamps down a pin tight it is very difficult to escape at times, especially if they have good posture and are fairly large and strong. But, a pin is just a pin, in order to attack with strikes or attempt a submission they have to move, If you know where and how they will have to move you can plan an escape as they move.

[Adonis]

thanks andrew,

Yeah mostly I can get out of it. They guy was a good wrestler with some Jiu-Jitsu knowlege. He got me in the basic arm lock where he controls the arm and puts it in his legs to get the arm lock I kept twisting my arm a little bit so He won't get the pressure and on the elbow joint. I was able to free the arm up but still had a hard time to escape. Yeah your right I forgot about that. I should work it more for combination of moves to get out of it.

Thats how I work my mount combine my upa with knee/elbow or other escapes to get out of mount. Or roll the person over.

Thanks for the tips.

who you train with by the way?

[AndrewGreen]

innovativema.com <- My club

[Adonis]

Right on!

[aruder]

is your opponent wearing a belt? Grab the belt with both hands, lift up, twist out. Grabbing the belt while grappling gives you some control over their hips, and a lot of the power in some pins comes from pushing with the hips.

[Ego Assassin]

The key to these escapes is to tuck your bottom elbow by turning to your side before your opponent gains control of the arm.

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of escape.

[Adonis]

yeah that is my mistake but the postion he was in was with the knee under or close enough to the shoulder to not allot me to touch the ground with it as well tight enough so I wasn't able to get it to the ground.

So I was hoping for that postion since my ohter techniques failed. I just need to work the mechanics more is what I think. I missing probably details on them that made me get stuck there.