Fighting in School

[Crucio]

I was just wondering, my friends and i were discussing it. I take ATA TKD along with my friend, my other two friends take karate, my other muay thai, my other boxing and 1 more ju-jitsu/wrestling.

 

I was wondering. I have been in fights at school, but the people who have fought me have been the standard egotysical idiot who knew nothing about fighting and lashed out at me for attention. He weighed quite a bit more than me (im 6-2 160lbs) (he was 5-11 210lbs) u know, football player, but one thats on the bench a lot. He charged towards me and i simply did a nice quick thrust kick to the stomach, a round house to the head (softly, just to shake him up) and a spinning side kick to his kidneys (more of a pushing kick than a pop the kidneys kick) that sent him to the floor. He got up and i let him catch his wind, then he charged me again, but this time in a funny looking boxing stance. He was really strong so, i couldnt get hit. Otherwise, he would be on top of me hitting my face as standard school fights go, luckily i had the advantage of TKD to keep him back. I was going very easy on him, despite the danger it put me in. I did a couple more very easy front kicks to test his reflexes and speed and blocking technique and saw that he was blocking with open hands. I did one easy axe kick and landed my foot behind his and pushed. he fell and i casually walked away. He got up but didnt chase after me, he just walked away.

 

My friends and i were debating whether this was the right way to handle the situation. Should i have gone a lot harder at him as my thai boxer friend suggested? I wasnt sure whether to knock him out and stop the danger or do what i did, I really cant get suspended or sued. My friends also suggested groin kicks and things. Have i been sparring to much, or was i right to go easy on a 210lb angry strong person?

[Bon]

You showed great control. KickChick told me a quote before that I like 'stronger is the man who wins over himself than over other men'.

 

You only used the force necessary to restrain him, obviously if you felt any real danger you would have done some damage to him.

 

It's obvious you can fight and he's probably aware you could have seriously hurt him, so I don't think he'll be coming back any time soon. Plus, you haven't hurt him, only his ego and aren't likely to get his mates after you. If a couple of people saw it, it's likely you won't have anyone messing with you again.

 

 

[Angus]

Urgh, i don't know how to answer this one...

 

It was good control on your part, but would he have shown control if he had gotten a hold of u? I would have smacked him hard a couple of times and if he'd gone and cried about it i would have used self-defense as my justification. I wouldn't risk stuffing around with him and possibly getting done myself.

 

Angus

 

 

[YODA]

"Don't hit at all if it is honourably possible to avoid hitting, but never hit soft."

 

...Theodore Roosevelt

 

 

If that first kick to the guts had been hard - as hard as possible , you would have ended it there instead of poncing about, and others would think twice about having a go. Maybe now they are thinking they'll have a go 'cos you hit like a wuss

 

 

 

 

[Angus]

Heh, that's exactly what i was thinking YODA, only i was saying it in nicer words... :lol:

 

Angus

 

 

[Bon]

Hmmm......

 

I don't think anyone will be hassling him again. he made the other guy look like a fool by sitting him on his ass twice. The fact he let him get up and get his wind would have looked like he wasn't worried.

 

 

[Jack]

Personally, I would not have gone soft on him. True, I would not aim to seriously injur the fellow, but in a situation like that, ever hit counts, so you should make the most of every hit and not do weak kicks. If that was with a stronger, faster person, you would have lost yourself because of those light strikes.

 

I think YODA's Theodore Roosevelt quotation sums it up.

[Phantasmatic]

If i were your parent, i would be extremely proud of you. That was the most correct thing to do (IMHO). You were at the point where you went easy on him, but he will never pick a fight wih you again. That is where you want to be.

 

 

[Jiggy9]

I can understand what Angus, Yoda and Jack are saying; and though id agree 99% of the time, i think you have to take into account the environment in which this occured. It was at school...if anyone got hurt then the consequences could be serious in terms of teachers' perspective e.t.c

 

If Crucio had hit hard and injured the guy, there could be more problems. I think he did a good job; he prevented himself from getting hurt whilst standing up for himself, and clearly told the guy that he can mean business...and most importantly avoided a big scene.

 

 

 

[ This Message was edited by: Jiggy9 on 2002-03-22 11:02 ]

[KickChick]

As a martial artist (outside the dojo) you must analyze an attack and determine the least amount of force you can use and still be effective. It is your responsibility to know your abilities and strength and to use them to cause no more harm than necessary. The law allows a person to defend him or herself but it requires the person to use only the amount of force that is absolutely necessary to stop an attack... and what caused him to lash out at you? Are we hearing the whole story here?