isshinryuwarrior Posted September 30, 2005 Posted September 30, 2005 I was talking to a friend of mine at work who noticed my Isshinryu warrior t-shirt, found out he's in Martial arts too, he know a bit about my style, when told him what my lineage was he said what I'm doing is a little bit different than isshinryu.My teachers, teacher was Dale Jenkins. His Isshinryu teacher was Don Nagle. What my friend said is Mr. Jenkins split off and did his own thing. Even today my association says that the core style is isshinryu with elements of jujitsu, judo, aikido and boxing added into the cirriculum.What is that? a Hybrid style or is a completley different system and new style?Maybe the assosiactions' website might help some to make a distinction on this. https://www.kokorokai.com Thank you Justin Oh my baloney has a first name.And its' name is K-A-R-A-T-E.Oh my balney has a last nameAnd its' name is......Hey! what is it's last name?
P.A.L Posted September 30, 2005 Posted September 30, 2005 if katas are the same as tetsu shimabukuru then it is isshinryu, there are 6 of them on the net you can download plus some weapons katas performed by the master.
b3n Posted September 30, 2005 Posted September 30, 2005 But it could be isshinyu combined with something else. My Nidan Grading! Check it Out: http://www.karateforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=27140OSU!"Behind each triumph are new peaks to be conquered." - Mas OyamaDojo Kun:http://www.diegobeltran.com/htms/dojo/dojokun.htmhttps://www.kyokushinkarate.cjb.net
karatekid1975 Posted September 30, 2005 Posted September 30, 2005 I would say it's still Isshinryu. I did Tang Soo Do that was mixed with a few other styles, but the forms, one steps, and basics were all the same as the assosiaction's cirriculum (we just had better self defense curriculum hehehehe ... to me anyways). But I never called it anything but Tang Soo Do. My TKD school is the same way. We do a mix of styles in TKD, eventhough our "base" is WTF TKD. It's still TKD to me. Laurie F
Goju_boi Posted September 30, 2005 Posted September 30, 2005 well let's just asume when youre doing non grappling movements, you are doing isshin ryu and when youre grappling youre doing the other arts https://www.samuraimartialsports.com for your source of Karate,Kobudo,Aikido,And Kung-Fu
SenseiMike Posted October 2, 2005 Posted October 2, 2005 well, I don't know....I mean Ishhinryu is traditional Okinawan Karate, & there's a lot of grappling in traditional karate.I learned 6 months of Ishhin ryu under a bohan lineage, it was different than the nagel guys as well. There's a lot of that in Isshin ryu, a whole lot. You can become a great fighter without ever becoming a martial artist, but no sir, you can not become a great martial artist with out becoming a great fighter. To fight is most certainly not the aim of any true martial art, but they are fighting arts all the same. As martial artists, we must stand ready to fight, even if hoping that such conflict never comes.-My response to a fellow instructor, in a friendly debate
Goju_boi Posted October 2, 2005 Posted October 2, 2005 well traditional karate does have a lot of grappling but it's concepts are different than those in aikido,judo,ju-jutsu.Becuase the grappling in aikido is done using your opponents energy against them,judo and ju-jutsu are more of the ground work stuff. https://www.samuraimartialsports.com for your source of Karate,Kobudo,Aikido,And Kung-Fu
Superfoot Posted October 3, 2005 Posted October 3, 2005 Many schools incorporate new styles into their own to make a more complete system. Provided nothing has been removed from the Isshinryu syllabus, what your studying is still Isshinryu, plus. Perfect Practice makes Perfect.
SenseiMike Posted October 4, 2005 Posted October 4, 2005 Many schools incorporate new styles into their own to make a more complete system. Provided nothing has been removed from the Isshinryu syllabus, what your studying is still Isshinryu, plus.that's assuming that there wasn't already an element there.everything I do is 100% kata based, and we do shoulder throws at white belt. I find a lot grappling in the shotokan katas, probaly more than actualy punhing. You can become a great fighter without ever becoming a martial artist, but no sir, you can not become a great martial artist with out becoming a great fighter. To fight is most certainly not the aim of any true martial art, but they are fighting arts all the same. As martial artists, we must stand ready to fight, even if hoping that such conflict never comes.-My response to a fellow instructor, in a friendly debate
Goju_boi Posted October 4, 2005 Posted October 4, 2005 What do you mean "everything I do is 100% kata based?" https://www.samuraimartialsports.com for your source of Karate,Kobudo,Aikido,And Kung-Fu
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