Zapatista Posted September 29, 2005 Posted September 29, 2005 So what's the difference between Chung Do Mu Sool Won and Hapkido? Northern Illinois University has a Korean Martial Arts "club" (it's more than a club since they offer belt advancements and have black belts teaching and a leader that's sole purpose is to teach) but they offer Chung Do Mu Sool Won and Hapkido but don't offer the difference between the two. All they say is that Chung Do Mu Sool Won is an ancient Korean art whereas Hapkido was developed in the 20th century. Is that the only difference or are there differences in training techniques? Thanks for your time.
tufrthanu Posted September 29, 2005 Posted September 29, 2005 To be brutally honest with you...I think there are really only two types of unarmed MA in Korea. TKD and HKD...and everything is related to one of those two types. Long Live the Fighters!
b3n Posted September 30, 2005 Posted September 30, 2005 What did Chung Do Mu Sool Won evolve from? My Nidan Grading! Check it Out: http://www.karateforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=27140OSU!"Behind each triumph are new peaks to be conquered." - Mas OyamaDojo Kun:http://www.diegobeltran.com/htms/dojo/dojokun.htmhttps://www.kyokushinkarate.cjb.net
Zapatista Posted September 30, 2005 Author Posted September 30, 2005 What did Chung Do Mu Sool Won evolve from?I'm not sure. According to NIU, Hapkido evolved from Chung Do Mu Sool Won and CDMSW was, in fact, an ancient art in Korea.
SenseiMike Posted October 4, 2005 Posted October 4, 2005 Chung Do Mu Sool Won is a new name for taekwondo, there is no historical korean art. if there was it's lost to history, for the most part they studdied chinee kempo untill the Japanese took the country over in 1905. There was an ancient sport called taekyon, but it wasn't a style, just a competition that scored points by kicking your opponent. You can become a great fighter without ever becoming a martial artist, but no sir, you can not become a great martial artist with out becoming a great fighter. To fight is most certainly not the aim of any true martial art, but they are fighting arts all the same. As martial artists, we must stand ready to fight, even if hoping that such conflict never comes.-My response to a fellow instructor, in a friendly debate
SenseiMike Posted October 4, 2005 Posted October 4, 2005 What did Chung Do Mu Sool Won evolve from?I'm not sure. According to NIU, Hapkido evolved from Chung Do Mu Sool Won and CDMSW was, in fact, an ancient art in Korea.Hapkido was derived from daito ryu ju jutsu. the founder of hapkido studied this in Japan from the same master who taught the founder of aikido. You can become a great fighter without ever becoming a martial artist, but no sir, you can not become a great martial artist with out becoming a great fighter. To fight is most certainly not the aim of any true martial art, but they are fighting arts all the same. As martial artists, we must stand ready to fight, even if hoping that such conflict never comes.-My response to a fellow instructor, in a friendly debate
elbows_and_knees Posted October 4, 2005 Posted October 4, 2005 To be brutally honest with you...I think there are really only two types of unarmed MA in Korea. TKD and HKD...and everything is related to one of those two types.what about kuk sool won and hwa rang do? I know tang soo do is related to them.
Goju_boi Posted October 7, 2005 Posted October 7, 2005 there ither arts from korea,like the sword arts and ssirum(sumo like wrestling) https://www.samuraimartialsports.com for your source of Karate,Kobudo,Aikido,And Kung-Fu
chizikunbo Posted June 18, 2006 Posted June 18, 2006 To be brutally honest with you...I think there are really only two types of unarmed MA in Korea. TKD and HKD...and everything is related to one of those two types.what about kuk sool won and hwa rang do? I know tang soo do is related to them.Tang Soo Do is not related to Kuk Sool Won nor Hwa Rang Do...Tang Soo Do is developed from Shotokan and Chuan Fa...Hwa Rang Do is developed from the teachings of Su Ahm Dosa, and Dr. Joo Bang Lee (who was a hapkido 8th dan under Choi Yong Sul)..Kuk Sool Won is derived from ancient Korean martial arts called Sa Do Mu Sool (Tribal or Family Martial Arts), Boo Kyo Mu Sool (Buddhist Temple Martial Arts) and Koong Joon Mu Sool (Korean Royal Court Martial Arts). It was founded by Grandmaster In Hyuk Suh.With any look into Chung Do Mu Sool Won you see that it is a breakoff from Kuk Sool Won...The uniforms are very similar, and its claim to lineage is the same as Kuk Sool Won's Koong Joon Mu Sool.So NO Chung Do Mu Sool Won is NOT derived from Tae Kwon Do...Its parent art of Kuk Sool Won was being systemized long before TKD was ever thought of.--Josh
UseoForce Posted June 19, 2006 Posted June 19, 2006 Hapkido isn't entirely Korean, either. 99% of Hapkido grappling comes straight from Daito Ryu Jiu-jitsu. Just out of curiosity, that would imply that most of Kuk Sool's grappling is JJJ related, too, right? If it works, use it!If not, throw it out!
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