Evolution of Kyokushin

[Dragn]

I read somewhere that kyokushin adopted the use of low kicks and using more swing in the hips after kyokushin fighters fought against Thai fighters and realised the power in their kicking technique. The kyokushin mawashigeri kick is somewhere inbetween a Muay Thai roundhouse and a regular Karate one. More hip swing then most karate styles but not as much as MuayThai, and also utilising a snapping motion. So depending on who you're talking to you'll get a different enterpretation.Karateka will say they swing their hips whereas MT fighters will say they are snapping.

[Goju_boi]

hmmm,so how would a kyokushin karateka be when fighting a Thau fighter?

[Meguro]

hmmm,so how would a kyokushin karateka be when fighting a Thau fighter?

Under what rules would they be fighting?

[Goju_boi]

hmmm,so how would a kyokushin karateka be when fighting a Thau fighter?

Under what rules would they be fighting?

well kickboxing rules,like in a sport format I guess.That would make things fair.

[Meguro]

hmmm,so how would a kyokushin karateka be when fighting a Thau fighter?

Under what rules would they be fighting?

well kickboxing rules,like in a sport format I guess.That would make things fair.

Not really. Knock-down and kick-boxing are similar, but different; pain level might be the same, but the rules, techniques and strategy are not as similar as you might think.

[y2_sub]

Lots of kickboxers use the kyokushin version of low kicks, there is a describtion of it in that page .

http://www.kyokushinmail.com/koya/KickInstruction.htm

Kikcboxing rules favor the thai boxer .

[Goju_boi]

"Kickboxing rules favor the thai boxer"

well yeah Muay Thai is a form of kickboxing.

"Not really. Knock-down and kick-boxing are similar, but different; pain level might be the same, but the rules, techniques and strategy are not as similar as you might think."

can you explain in more details please?

[feels]

Nowadays, I'm starting to see Kyokushin fighters using a lot more advanced techniques in competition than their predecessors. The Late Andy Hug used to break through many of his opponents' defenses, using the axe kick. Glaube Feitosa and Francisco Filho have knocked out numerous opponents with the Brazilian Kick. Ryuta Noji, who placed among the Top 8 at the IKO1 7th World Open, found a way to utilize jumping elbows during competition. At my dojo, we're trying to distinguish ourselves from the other dojos in Great L.A. by introducing the tornado kick during competition. Flip kicks, barrel kicks, jump spinning roundhouse kicks are starting to become household techniques for many fighters as well.

In terms of strategy, many Kyokushin fighters are starting to develop their own style of fighting. Daisuke Komiyama, a lightweight fighter from Shinkyokushinkai, is a great practitionor of front kicking and uses it as his main weapon because he is taller than his fellow Japanese competition. Ryu Narushima's high kick can be deployed with great power at punching distance because of his flexibility.

Although Kyokushin fighters are not allowed to hold or push during competition, some fighters find loopholes in the system, which are difficult for judges to detect. There are many fighters who like to "parry" the opponent's arm away before striking. They also like to "hook punch" the opponent's shoulder blade, so that it shoves the opponent in for the knee.

[Goju_boi]

can you explain to me what is the brazilian kick,tornado kick,and barrel kicks?

[feels]

http://homepage.mac.com/sempaihill/.Public/KO%20clips.wmv

Brazilian Kick - A roundhouse kick that drops almost vertically downward, usually initiated by feinting a front kick.

http://filehost.to/files/2005-08-30_01/005556_spin1.gif

Tornado Kick - Technically, a 540 spinning jump kick. The initial 180 twist on the ground builds momentum. Very difficult to land. I would assume that TKD fighters are better than karatekas at this kick.

Barrel Kick - As known as the wheel kick, rolling kick, and kaiten domawashi performed rolling sideways with the backfoot landing downward.