Shaolin here, Shaolin there, Shaolin everywhere...

[Goju_boi]

NO, Not every socieites were initiated cuz of banned of martial arts or even has anything to do with martial art, maybe member knows martial art, but martial art is not the reason of gathering, and definately not White Lotus. Actually alot of them had many complicated society and political issues and reasons, and you really need to study them and really knows Chinese history to understand why, how and when.

Some of the secret society or triad (more famous one), but not limited to are:

Boxer (Yi Hur group)

White Lotus

Hong Men

Chin Ban

....etc.

they were all documented in Chinese History.

well sorry if I got my facts wrong,you really can't expect a mexican dude to know chinese history very well.Also another question,arent the triads like the chinese mafia or something?I saw a special on them on the history channel once.It was about the 5 worst organized crime countries.

[kzshin]

oh don't be sorry, we are all just here to learn more and share knowledge.

well, yeah, some triads are like mafia, but some....well, it's getting really complicated, cuz Chinese history is almost like a war history, for 3 thousand (some people might argue it's 5000) years there are always wars, and rebillion. Yes, there might be 200 to 300 years interval of peace, but there are always some kind of civil wars, or rebellions. So there are actually lots of secret socities, and some of them not neccesarry doing crimes like modern day crimes. They might just have different political stance, was against the government, not happy with life, don't like the way of living.......etc. many reasons. So they are not necessary all doing crimes.

Now, the triads in modern days (post 1900), I will lean towarnd the history channels more.

[Goju_boi]

well they were showing about the past few decades of history.They showed how they came here to America and were tough as nails.Also how a lot of them were into martial arts.

[kzshin]

well, martial arts is in the Chinese culture, so it's not hard to understand that members in triad or secret society were into martial art, but what I mean is not all of them form the triad, or secret socities to promote martail arts.

[Goju_boi]

well, martial arts is in the Chinese culture, so it's not hard to understand that members in triad or secret society were into martial art, but what I mean is not all of them form the triad, or secret socities to promote martail arts.

I see,gotcha.I guess it's a stereotype or something.

[Ali]

Being a Chinese, I would write some more detail

why Shaolin is being famous in China for martial art.

Thanks!

[Goju_boi]

Being a Chinese, I would write some more detail

why Shaolin is being famous in China for martial art.

Thanks!

write more details please?

[kzshin]

Being a Chinese, I would write some more detail

why Shaolin is being famous in China for martial art.

wow, that's a long history to talk about.

I think, Tang dynasty will be the most important period for Shiao Lin, cuz that's the first time Siao Lin monk was documented in history that got involved in politics, and helped the Lee Si Ming, which later becomes Emperor, on many occasions. That's why Lee Si ming, actually given them a tiltled called Marital Monk (Wu tseng), and welcome them practice their art instead of prohatbited them like some of other dynasty. Tang dynasty is also when Buddism really flourished, every Chinese or Chinese culture related people heard about the story about Tang San (three) Zong went to India to get scribt. And that's how the mythtical legend of Soon Guku (monkey king) story based on. And name Sun Goku was actually used in Dragoball (one of most famouse Japnese cartoon). Actually in every early epsiode of Sun Goku, has alot similarity to the original story. So you see how strong of infulence of Tang Dynasty Culture is, even till today, and not only to Chinese, to other part of Asia as well.

Another thing, Tang is very important to Karate, and I think Tang soo do too, since Tamg Soo do pronuced like chinese as Tang's hand way.

For Karate, To te (original name of Karate), if you write in Chinese, it actually means Tang hand, it does not directly translated to chinese hand, and that's because in the past, in Asia, Tang actually is the name of China. (for people who has very little or no idea of Chinese history, it's kinda like Roman is where Itay used to call) And also, Chinese is an given name from westerner after they arrived China During Chin Dynasty. that's how they start calling people Chinese. But for country like Japan or Korean, long time ago, they called China, Han, or Tang, or Chu go (direct Translation of Chinese Character, "Center Nation")

Tang is one of most important dyansty in Chinese History, and it's the MOST important period for Chinese Culture to flourish develop and spread all over Asia. Han dynasty will be another very important dynasty.

Geeze, I wrote too much extra stuffs.

well, my point is, Shiao Lin was kinda famous before Tang Dynasty, but it got really famou starting from Tang Dynasty.

[White Warlock]

by all means, continue writing. good information.

[Ali]

Being a Chinese, I would write some more detail

why Shaolin is being famous in China for martial art.

Thanks!

write more details please?

Hello, Goju_boi

So Kzshin has given very detail that I want to write.

Just added Tang Dynasty started from around AC 615.

Thanks!

Friendly regards,

Ali