YODA Posted March 19, 2002 Posted March 19, 2002 Similar to my "Tactics" question – there are three main structures for fighting on the ground… Strike – strike – strike Immediate lock/submission, and if it fails go for another, and another. Positional Control first then look for strikes or submissions (which?) So – which do you favour & why? YODA2nd Degree Black Belt : Doce Pares Eskrima https://www.docepares.co.ukQualified Instructor : JKD Concepts https://www.jkdc.co.ukQualified Fitness Instructor (Weights, CV, Circuit, Kinesiology)
Bon Posted March 21, 2002 Posted March 21, 2002 I'm real new to BJJ, but I'm attempting to get mount or side control over my opponents, so if it was a real fight, I could pumble them with punches. Obviously in sparring I don't do that, so I try to get a submission hold IF I get mount or side control. It takes sacrifice to be the best.There are always two choices, two paths to take. One is easy. And its only reward is that it's easy.
YODA Posted March 24, 2002 Author Posted March 24, 2002 Hi Bon Do you hold your mount or side control differently with thoughts about striking? Have you thought about how to minimise how much you weaken your base when you strike? What about which types of strikes allow most control of the position? _________________ YODA KarateForums Sempai 2nd Degree Black Belt : Doce Pares Eskrima https://www.docepares.co.uk Qualified Instructor : JKD Concepts https://www.jkdc.co.uk Qualified Fitness Instructor (Weights, CV, Circuit, Kinesiology) [ This Message was edited by: YODA on 2002-03-24 07:40 ] YODA2nd Degree Black Belt : Doce Pares Eskrima https://www.docepares.co.ukQualified Instructor : JKD Concepts https://www.jkdc.co.ukQualified Fitness Instructor (Weights, CV, Circuit, Kinesiology)
Bon Posted March 25, 2002 Posted March 25, 2002 YODA, I'm still learning how to do the side control and mount properly.. I don't really hold it any differently.. e.g. I have mount, person I'm mounted on goes to grab my groin - leaves himself open for punches when he does that. You can wrap your legs around their shins to stabilise yourself some more with the mount. I'd most likely go for 'normal' punches, that being the big right hand coming down on almost a 90 degree angle. It takes sacrifice to be the best.There are always two choices, two paths to take. One is easy. And its only reward is that it's easy.
Joecooke007 Posted March 26, 2002 Posted March 26, 2002 Now this is what it's all about. Two people talking ma. Helping each other out. I think that it's cool that everyone is here for the same reason. To talk MA. Sorry that this was way off topic. Boards don't hit back. -Bruce Lee
Angus Posted March 26, 2002 Posted March 26, 2002 With any form of lock i'm looking for a way to either smack the guy out or choke him out. So if i've got a mount on the guy i'm gonna smack him with left right left right left right punch combo's etc... Rickson Gracie's used this tactic to gain submission before, and he doesn't even practice any for of striking art!! If i'm on the ground or on the guy's back or something then i'm gonna try a rear choke hold, the eqasiest of the lot! Angus Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear, not absence of fear.
YODA Posted March 26, 2002 Author Posted March 26, 2002 I think you (as many do) vastly underestimate how much standup & striking Rickson has trained. I knwo from a VERY reliable source tyhat he's done a lot - a helluva lot. In fcat one world class JKD instructor I know stopped taking privates with Rickson 'cos all he wanted to do was work standup striking with him - the wrong person was paying for the private! YODA2nd Degree Black Belt : Doce Pares Eskrima https://www.docepares.co.ukQualified Instructor : JKD Concepts https://www.jkdc.co.ukQualified Fitness Instructor (Weights, CV, Circuit, Kinesiology)
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