YODA Posted March 19, 2002 Posted March 19, 2002 There are three main types of tactic that people seem to employ in theor groundfigthing… Ground & Pound (Popular with wrestlers) Constant movement & action (Popular with shoot fighters) Slow & methodical (Most BJJ people use this) So - for you grapplers out there… Which is your "Game" and why? Does it change depending on the situation and/or opponent? YODA2nd Degree Black Belt : Doce Pares Eskrima https://www.docepares.co.ukQualified Instructor : JKD Concepts https://www.jkdc.co.ukQualified Fitness Instructor (Weights, CV, Circuit, Kinesiology)
Singularity Posted March 19, 2002 Posted March 19, 2002 I'm glad somebody finally asked a question like this Yoda, because I went to a party at a friend's house yesterday, he's a hardcore grappler, so we grappled. Later, we discussed both of our fighting styles. He is extremely aggressive and fights like a shoot fighter, constant movement and action. Granted that for me it changes depending on the fighter, but I am usually very methodical. I just relaxed the entire time, he was on top the whole time, I just waited for him to shoot in, and countered, I went for the openings when I could, but this guy loves pain, so he ended up escaping some pretty brutal positions. Yes, I'm definitely slow and methodical, I win when I'm on the bottom and can think. By the way, we both agreed we tied, we just got too tired after our excessively long match. What about everyone else? I want to see responses to this. Dave
YODA Posted March 19, 2002 Author Posted March 19, 2002 I agree - I find the fast people VERY easy to hit when strikes are allowed. Slow & methodical - that's me. Close all the doors exept one & let the opponent tell you how to beat him _________________ YODA KarateForums Sempai 2nd Degree Black Belt : Doce Pares Eskrima https://www.docepares.co.uk Qualified Instructor : JKD Concepts https://www.jkdc.co.uk Qualified Fitness Instructor (Weights, CV, Circuit, Kinesiology) [ This Message was edited by: YODA on 2002-03-24 07:45 ] YODA2nd Degree Black Belt : Doce Pares Eskrima https://www.docepares.co.ukQualified Instructor : JKD Concepts https://www.jkdc.co.ukQualified Fitness Instructor (Weights, CV, Circuit, Kinesiology)
three60roundhouse Posted March 19, 2002 Posted March 19, 2002 If you have ever watched Kira Gracie, that's sort of "my style" - I like to play my guard and go for sweeps instead of being really agressive. 1st dan Tae Kwon DoYellow Belt Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu16 Years OldGirls kick butt!
YODA Posted March 19, 2002 Author Posted March 19, 2002 Hi 360 You're a light framed build I bet. If so then the guard is your home Develop it, work it - don't neglect the ranges within guard work - closed, spider, open. Make sure you are the one that dictates when you are in which one! YODA2nd Degree Black Belt : Doce Pares Eskrima https://www.docepares.co.ukQualified Instructor : JKD Concepts https://www.jkdc.co.ukQualified Fitness Instructor (Weights, CV, Circuit, Kinesiology)
spinninggumby Posted March 19, 2002 Posted March 19, 2002 Well I would say that the grappling that I've been taught doesn't really fall under any particular category but one thing we do emphasize is the conservation of energy and not to overexert or expend it when it is not needed. Slow and methodical, though, seems to be a generally good way to go if you have been on the ground for a while. However, that does not mean that once you see an opportunity or opening that you should not take it with blinding quickness. A groundfight can be very physically demanding so you may need to call upon your reserves to carry out sudden bursts of strength and/or quick and fast physical demanding motions/maneuvers (strategic maneuvers into more advantageous positions I would assume). We also emphasize tucking the chin close to the chest so that the opponent cannot achieve a headlock. Ironically, this is because we are taught to try to control the head because when the head is under control, the body is under control. Just my 2 cents 'Conviction is a luxury for those on the sidelines'William Parcher, 'A BEAUTIFUL MIND'
YODA Posted March 24, 2002 Author Posted March 24, 2002 "However, that does not mean that once you see an opportunity or opening that you should not take it with blinding quickness. " - Agreed, when you go for it - GO FOR IT "We also emphasize tucking the chin close to the chest so that the opponent cannot achieve a headlock" - Depends what you call a headlock. Tucking your chin is a great way to minimise the threat of a choke, but can leave you prone to spine locks & facebars. YODA2nd Degree Black Belt : Doce Pares Eskrima https://www.docepares.co.ukQualified Instructor : JKD Concepts https://www.jkdc.co.ukQualified Fitness Instructor (Weights, CV, Circuit, Kinesiology)
Prodigy-Child Posted March 26, 2002 Posted March 26, 2002 im a lighter guy and most of my submissions come from when i am in my guard..........i usually get alot of chokes from the guard but if i can time it perfectly and everything works right i can slap on a pretty nasty arm bar but the best position for me where i know i am going to win is when i got myself a complete backmount on my opponant and when i get my signature triangle choke on! You can boo me if you want, You know I'm right!-Chris Rock
jiu-jitsu fighter Posted January 13, 2003 Posted January 13, 2003 i think im a constant movement and methodical, i study bjj and there are so many combinations of submissions that flow into one another and so , if im in a bad position i want to get out but i also , want to watch out for my opponent, also i want to put him in a bad position, so i have to move constantly until I am in a dominant position than its methodical , like a chess game,u don't have time to lay there in your guard and think , you have to think fast and apply a submission fast, or your opponent will "When we go to the ground,you are in my world, the ground is the ocean, I am the shark,and most people don't even know how to swim"
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