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you got it right man, it all depends where your coming from ya know, like the okinawans have a different type of japanese called okinawan, it all depends

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It is true that shi rhymes with death. However, I never heard a Japanese instructor avoid saying "shi" while counting numbers while living in Japan. I think that is a superstition and many Japanese don't care anymore than you care about living on the 13th floor or in the 13th house.

I mentioned that Japanese karateka do not seem to worry about this. But from what I remember from my various times in Japan, there were a lot of places (not all) that didn't have a fourth floor. And I've spoken with many Japanese regarding the "shi" as superstition. That's all it is.

Edit: Of course, you probably know more about the Japanese than I do...My point is this: almost no one at all cares about a 13th floor, but many hotels here in America don't have one.

Edit2: Nevermind...

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24fightingchickens:

Doesn't the fact that most Japanese use the onyomi for counting for all the numbers except for shi and shichi add credence to the superstition argument? If there was no argument, you would have more of them saying "shi" and "shichi" instead of "yon" and "nana".

(I've already said that it appears karateka aren't superstitious...)

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24fightingchickens:

Doesn't the fact that most Japanese use the onyomi for counting for all the numbers except for shi and shichi add credence to the superstition argument? If there was no argument, you would have more of them saying "shi" and "shichi" instead of "yon" and "nana".

(I've already said that it appears karateka aren't superstitious...)

I did not notice that the Japanese used the kunyomi for 4 and 7 very often. They used the onyomi when they were counting to ten, or for example when counting numbers for techniques. They said shi and shichi all the time.

I think the superstition might be the source of the tendency to flip into the kunyomi on those two numbers more than others, but I don't think the superstition is there any longer. It's just the historical reason it started. Now I think they do this without thinking about it sometimes, and many don't do it at all.

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I see. My comments were based on what my Japanese teachers have told me over the years and the three trips I spent in Japan (a month, ten days and a week). But since your experience greatly dwarfs mine in this respect, I'll take your word for it.

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