Goju Ryu katas.

[SANCHIN31]

Thanks for correcting me,I was clearly wrong. You weren't overly persistent and I don't take it personally. Take care friend.

[Goju_boi]

woa that guy sure knows his karate,I bet he's a black belt

[Leopard claw]

We have Naihanchi in my style, Shorei-ryu, an Okinawa style.

[Goju_boi]

is that another style , or another name for shorin ryu?

[Shorin Ryuu]

From my understanding, Shorei Ryu is another way of saying Naha Te. There may have been a style that has specifically adopted it as its name...I simply don't know off the top of my head.

[Goju_boi]

isn't naha te what my style came from?

[Shorin Ryuu]

Yes. But as the founder of your style stated: "They say that karate-do has two separate sects: Shorin-ryu and Shorei-ryu. However, there is no clear evidence to support or deny this."

There are some obvious differences between the two of them now. But there was much more interplay between them back then. Even now, the differences are still a lot less than between other styles of fighting.

[Goju_boi]

"They say that karate-do has two separate sects: Shorin-ryu and Shorei-ryu. "

what did he mean by this?

[Shorin Ryuu]

He was referring to the fact that various karateka (I think Itosu may have been one of them, in fact) who referred to there being two main branches of Okinawan te: Shorin Ryu (Shuri Te) and Shorei Ryu (Naha Te). Then he says there is no clear evidence to support or deny this.

I'll just quote from McCarthy's translation of it, but Miyagi puts it this way:

"If forced to distinguish the differences between these sects, then I would have to say that it is only the teaching methods that divide them.

Shorin-ryu's fundamental training [kihon] and open-hand techniques [kaishu] are not taught in any cleary defined way. However, the Shorei-ryu kaishu and kihon are taught according to a clearly established method. My teacher taught us according to the Shorei-ryu method."

In other words, Miyagi was saying that those who identify with "Shorei Ryu" have a very clearly defined methodology of teaching their basics and kata was more or less the same. Shorin Ryu, on the other hand, was far more personalized in terms of instruction style and method. [This is highlighted as one of the reasons why the Japanese initially viewed karate as a crude and unrefined art as it was taught quite different than the very formalized and structured curriculum based ways that the Japanese taught their martial arts]

That's what I got from it, anyway.

[Jay]

isnt shrei ryu a different style to shorin ryu shotokan has elements of both in it i belive