UseoForce Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 I have both of the army combatives manuals bookmarked, anyone know where I can find the MCMAP one? Note: I'm looking for a website displaying the contents of the manual, not the book itself for purchase. If it works, use it!If not, throw it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbows_and_knees Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 There was one posted on this forum a while back. try searching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadCell Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 They have the "Marine Corp Close Quarter Combat Manual" on sale but it should be titled "how to get yourself stabbed and killed". Personally, I think it is unrealistic. A good CQC book would be "Kill or Get Killed" by Rex Applegate. May be a little dated but its effective. The Army bases most of its techniques off Gracie Jujitsu and you have to remember usually we we fight we have our full combat gear on so it has to be a lot of ground stuff. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
street fighter Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 WOW deadcell you hit the nail on the head, good shot. Military Combative classes are a freaking joke and should be outlawed. I sorta understand the primise that you cannot spend 3 months training hand-to-hand but when sending an American into a combat zone he should be as well rounded as possible. And I do believe it is possible to do better, much better than the crap they are feeding our young soldiers, Marines, airmen and seamen. I have trained with many soldiers, Rangers and other members of the SOCOM community and have been less than impressed with thier abilities. I do not blame the fighting men, I blame the system. Makes them even larger heros knowing they are fighting with some inferior tools in their arsenal. Survivor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mourning_ Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 thats exactly what i was sayin in my post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 amen to that The key to everything is continuity achieved by discipline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadCell Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 Interesting account of a recent Iraq firefight going H2H. http://michaelyon.blogspot.com/2005/08/gates-of-fire.html "Prosser shot the man at least four times with his M4 rifle. But the American M4 rifles are weak--after Prosser landed three nearly point blank shots in the man's abdomen, splattering a testicle with a fourth, the man just staggered back, regrouped and tried to shoot Prosser. Then Prosser's M4 went "black" (no more bullets). A shooter inside was also having problems with his pistol, but there was no time to reload. Prosser threw down his empty M4, ran into the shop and tackled the man. ... When the bullet hit that canister, Prosser—who I thought might be dead because of all the blood on his leg—was actually fighting hand-to-hand on the ground. Wrapped in a ground fight, Prosser could not pull out his service pistol strapped on his right leg, or get to his knife on his left, because the terrorist—who turned out to be a serious terrorist—had grabbed Prosser's helmet and pulled it over his eyes and twisted it. Prosser had beaten the terrorist in the head three times with his fist and was gripping his throat, choking him. But Prosser's gloves were slippery with blood so he couldn't hold on well. At the same time, the terrorist was trying to bite Prosser's wrist, but instead he bit onto the face of Prosser's watch. (Prosser wears his watch with the face turned inward.) The terrorist had a mouthful of watch but he somehow also managed to punch Prosser in the face. When I shot the propane canister, Prosser had nearly strangled the guy, but my shots made Prosser think bad guys were coming, so he released the terrorist's throat and snatched out the pistol from his holster, just as SSG Konkol, Lewis, Devereaux and Muse swarmed the shop. But the shots and the propane fiasco also had brought the terrorist back to life, so Prosser quickly reholstered his pistol and subdued him by smashing his face into the concrete." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UseoForce Posted September 16, 2005 Author Share Posted September 16, 2005 thx for the replies If it works, use it!If not, throw it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorin Ryuu Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 Heh. I was going to post Michael Yon's blog entry in the other thread before I saw this one...That really is one of the best Iraq blogs out there. Martial Arts Blog:http://bujutsublogger.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mourning_ Posted September 19, 2005 Share Posted September 19, 2005 good story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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