What style for COMBAT/self defense?

[bruceflea]

bruceflea

Taking too many hits really teach you where it hurts more and where its better to be struck at.

Other than that, you just become a punching bag,really...

better ask for sparring full contact.

Well actually, its developing your threshold to being hit. Like dropping medicine balls on your stomach to develop the proper attributes. Toughen you up so to speak!!

If, as a beginner, you go in with sparring to start and you get hit, it would be a horrible shock...you must be ready for pain if it comes. Plus, we partner up...so when im hit, like ab straight blasts, and the guy really hits me, i only get my own back when its my turn!! No pain, no gain!!!!!

Also it develops your mind, so you dont get easily fazed, you can take the punishment....shaolin monks do this, being hit with sticks...to the point where they can resist spear poles on there body etc....Like punching solid material, it hurts but you get use to it and it just makes you stronger.

[Kajukenbopr]

I dont know about that.

Wouldnt it be better to just sparr full contact? that way you learn about fighting and learn to receive a full hit.

Unless you got hit without noticing it, because if you are expecting to get hit, you prepare for the pain, but in a real fight you dont always notice when a hit is coming or we would always evade attacks before we get hit. So, in a real fight, when you dont see the attack or get hit without you expecting it, it will be a shock to you.

[bruceflea]

I dont know about that.

Wouldnt it be better to just sparr full contact? that way you learn about fighting and learn to receive a full hit.

Unless you got hit without noticing it, because if you are expecting to get hit, you prepare for the pain, but in a real fight you dont always notice when a hit is coming or we would always evade attacks before we get hit. So, in a real fight, when you dont see the attack or get hit without you expecting it, it will be a shock to you.

Good point, but all schools have different ways of learning.

To me, its like entering a mr.universe contest before you have lifted a weight!!

[Meguro]

If you're shipping out to Iraq or Afghanistan with the marines, do what was previously recommended: lots of running, push-ups and sit-ups. Save your money, by not taking any martial arts classes and put the money to good use: buy extra armour plates for your body armour!!!

Good luck!

[bruceflea]

If you're shipping out to Iraq or Afghanistan with the marines, do what was previously recommended: lots of running, push-ups and sit-ups. Save your money, by not taking any martial arts classes and put the money to good use: buy extra armour plates for your body armour!!!

Good luck!

Dont really understand your point. Conditioning the body gives you a psychical edge!!

[Meguro]

If you're shipping out to Iraq or Afghanistan with the marines, do what was previously recommended: lots of running, push-ups and sit-ups. Save your money, by not taking any martial arts classes and put the money to good use: buy extra armour plates for your body armour!!!

Good luck!

Dont really understand your point. Conditioning the body gives you a psychical edge!!

What don't you understand? The greatest threats to marines in Iraq and Afghanistan are posed by mines, ied's, and rifle fire, not drunk guys in bars getting in your face. Marine basic training and being in the military will give the op enough exposure to MA's without him spending his hard-earned cash on any pre-training. Running, push-ups and sit-ups cost the op nothing and will get the op in shape for basic where he might learn something useful-like how to stay alive in combat. With the money saved by not studying krav maga or anything else pre-Marines, the op can load up on ceramic plates to upgrade his body armour.

Joint locks, chokes, kicking and punching are for pretend warriors like you, me, and everyone else who hasn't put on a uniform and carried a gun.

Edited September 6, 2005 by Meguro

[y2_sub]

I agree with the points that Meguro mentioned , but if you insist on taking martial arts , take judo or boxing .

[bruceflea]

I agree with the points that Meguro mentioned , but if you insist on taking martial arts , take judo or boxing .

Boxing and judo are part of some of the things learnt, under the JKD umbrella .

Plus in response to a post about marines and such, i didnt understand why you would raise it. Simply, if one is phsycially fit, there capability to last in a fight, i.e...endurance and so... is grately magnified. The training of the attributes prepares you for real world situations. Push ups train your pushing power, sit ups train your core..essenstial for any martial artist. Cross training in a sport, weights or whatever is a GREAT compliment to martial art training.

Sparring is on the menu later without question of course.

Hard work is a good thing and part of that is hard training!

[Kajukenbopr]

If you're shipping out to Iraq or Afghanistan with the marines, do what was previously recommended: lots of running, push-ups and sit-ups. Save your money, by not taking any martial arts classes and put the money to good use: buy extra armour plates for your body armour!!!

Good luck!

Dont really understand your point. Conditioning the body gives you a psychical edge!!

What don't you understand? The greatest threats to marines in Iraq and Afghanistan are posed by mines, ied's, and rifle fire, not drunk guys in bars getting in your face. Marine basic training and being in the military will give the op enough exposure to MA's without him spending his hard-earned cash on any pre-training. Running, push-ups and sit-ups cost the op nothing and will get the op in shape for basic where he might learn something useful-like how to stay alive in combat. With the money saved by not studying krav maga or anything else pre-Marines, the op can load up on ceramic plates to upgrade his body armour.

Joint locks, chokes, kicking and punching are for pretend warriors like you, me, and everyone else who hasn't put on a uniform and carried a gun.

well, thats your point of view. I dont think I need to prove I'm a warrior by being a Soldier for a country. Besides, martial arts IS being a warrior in my point of view because we fight hand to hand instead of just pulling a trigger to kill someone who is 300 feet away. Even a baby can pull a trigger...

--not critizicing our soldiers. I'm behind them 100%. but they are not the only warriors in the world--

[Menjo]

i agree, there are different definitions of a warrior overall..