Wing Tsun vs...

[dippedappe]

How good will Wing Tsun be in a vs battle against say western boxing, Kickboxing or Tai Boxing? Let's say it's two klones. One with WT training, and the other with one of the three others. Both klones have about 2 years of praktice in their style. How would the WT guy do against the other do you think?

All in all, the question is... Is Wing Tsun good against these three other styles?

[TJS]

Boxing and Thai boxing have both transitioned much better and been succesful in early and current nhb fighting than WC.

(now here comes the people to talk about how that dosent matter because you cant bite and scratch, etc)

[SubGrappler]

Boxing and Thai boxing have both transitioned much better and been succesful in early and current nhb fighting than WC.

(now here comes the people to talk about how that dosent matter because you cant bite and scratch, etc)

Before they do I'll second your statement.

Muay Thai and Western Boxing have much more full contact sparring in their regiment, not to mention the fact that Thai fighters are dangerous once they get their neck clinch on their opponents.

I'd say the best thing that Wing Chun has going for it is its emphasis on controlling the center line, which is a very important thing in a fight. Dont forget though that boxers and Thai boxers are doing the same.

[KempoTiger]

I've seen a few videos of kickboxers beating WC guys senseless, but in my opinion I think that when properly training in WC full contact, one can be just as formidable as anyone else.

Personally I feel that WC practicioners should also cross train in a system that works a bit more footwork but hey..

[Sengra]

Thai boxers are really dangerous, especially when their bodies are already trained to receive heavy blows..^_^

[CagedWarrior]

WC is extremely limited of a style. And the idea of atacking someone's limbs is really ridiculous. A boxer/thai boxer fights to knock the guy out with brutal force. That's what fighting is.

[KempoTiger]

WC is extremely limited of a style. And the idea of atacking someone's limbs is really ridiculous. A boxer/thai boxer fights to knock the guy out with brutal force. That's what fighting is.

WC is most effective against a) an untrained fighter and b) another WC practicioner. BUT, personally I attribute that to most WC practicioners not training in the fullest sense contact-wise.

I've never formally trained in Wing Chun, but from what I've seen it has some very important theories that if ignored can lead to ones downfall when that person comes across someone who knows what they're doing.

Attacking limbs can be a very viable strategy, assuming you get yourself in the position to do so. If not, quickly attacking vital areas such as the neck and the bridge of the nose can end a fight fairly quickly. "Brutal Force" is not always the best choice in a fight...especially if the other guy has more strength and force than you.

But yes as it's been said, WC is fairly limited, and is primarily a hand fighting style that anticipates a limited amount of attacks from a would-be attacker. That's why I say switching up the footwork, and incorporating some kicking techniques would make a WC practicioner extremely capable.

[ravenzoom]

Good post, however there are kicks in Wing Chun. My question would be, can a Wing Chun practitioner compete and beat a muay Thai fighter if the wing chun guy also trained hardcore? People always refer to the differences between these two arts' training, but what if they trained equally hard?

[KempoTiger]

Good post, however there are kicks in Wing Chun. My question would be, can a Wing Chun practitioner compete and beat a muay Thai fighter if the wing chun guy also trained hardcore? People always refer to the differences between these two arts' training, but what if they trained equally hard?

It all comes down to the individual. It always does. I mean you can do the math and try to figure it out, but in the end both ways of fighting have very different theories on how to succeed. If you want my opinion, I'd give it to the Thai fighter, simply because the way they strike is very quick and they always bring their limbs back to a close guard which limits the Wing Chun fighter from parrying/striking/trapping the limbs and moving in.

But the argument then continues to say that the Wing Chun fighter would be able to evade the strikes and return with deadly, accurate strikes to vital areas.

Just remember, body-type, strength, size/weight, aggression, tact, and heart are all factors that come into play. Not to mention pre-fight rules...assuming there is any.

[CagedWarrior]

Attacking limbs can be a very viable strategy, assuming you get yourself in the position to do so. If not, quickly attacking vital areas such as the neck and the bridge of the nose can end a fight fairly quickly. "Brutal Force" is not always the best choice in a fight...especially if the other guy has more strength and force than you.

What else would you use? Medium force? Light force? When you hit a guy, you want to hit him as hard as possible, right? Especially if you're smaller- every extra bit of force you can get from proper technique to bring him down. Besides, if you train in boxing, you probably know to hit a guy in the bridge of the nose, or the side of the neck, or any other dirty trick most guys just pick up (for streetfighting) here and there. As for attacking the limbs... come on. If i put my fists up and you try and hurt my arms, I'll hit you in the face. Plain and simple, it just doesn't work.