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Importance point for Wing Chun to be careful when sparring


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I am not personally familiar with the "Sao punch" but, if it is

" a round punch that starts above the shoulder, tha punches down and across the body" as described above then I find it very difficult to believe that a Wing Chun player, much less a sifu, would not only get hit once by this technique, but 5 times.

However, assuming that this actually took place then my guess is that the sifu is not as talented a fighter as your friend. Unfortunately, many who call themselves "sifu" are either anything but or alternatively, out of practice from teaching only and no practice. Your friend's experience with this sifu is in no wise descriptive of all WC fighters however and you should not take it to be so. Presuming that all WC fighters are like this sifu could be potentially bad for your health.

One who excels as a warrior does not appear formidable; One who excels at fighting is never aroused in anger; One who excels in defeating his enemy, does not join issues; One who excels in the employing of others humbles himself before them. This is the virtue of non-contention which matches the sublimity of heaven.

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I'm a not a big avocate of cross training,however I feel its very important to spar and to test your art agaist other arts.If your not able to defend agaist so other art then your own then you need to either train harder (if you lask skill )or if your teacher can't teach you what you need to know then you need to find a new teacher,but I don't think the answer is in cross training.

Very good post. Many people seem to think that there is an "easy" answer in cross training and hence they diversify into other arts putting a lot of time and effort in learning different arts that are sometimes even contradictory to each other. In the end of the day if they had put the same time and effort into their one art, specially, and in this case, an art like Wing Chun, they would have been much better off. This is assuming, of course, that they study the real thing with a real knowledgable sifu.

As you say it is important to test your art against other arts, i.e. to be aware of other styles and methods in relation to what one studies. Maybe, in some way, that is what Ali is saying as well.

Use your time on an art that is worthwhile and not on a dozen irrelevant "ways".

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****As you say it is important to test your art against other arts, i.e. to be aware of other styles and methods in relation to what one studies. Maybe, in some way, that is what Ali is saying as well.****

That is what I want to say!

Not to be too comfortable in our own school.

I agree that cross-train too regularly without really sticking to

1 art before is not healthy.

But what if some technique that do not exist in your style?

Quite clear that no ground fight in Wing Chun or at least

"Traditional" one if you like to label that.

Would you train some wrestling or BJJ also?

Just do that for Insurance....

Accident would happen sometime....

Darkness grants me pair of dark black eye,

Yet I determine to look for Brightness

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agree that cross-train too regularly without really sticking to

1 art before is not healthy.

But what if some technique that do not exist in your style?

Quite clear that no ground fight in Wing Chun or at least

"Traditional" one if you like to label that.

Would you train some wrestling or BJJ also?

Just do that for Insurance....

Accident would happen sometime....

you can't compare BJJ to WC. both are totally different arts.Both have different techniques and ways of fighting,but what's important is if your a WC guy if can you counter the BJJ guys moves.If you can then there is not need to study to it.I think you can find alot of the answers in your style if you look hard enough.I'm not saying WC has all the answers because no art even BJJ has all the answer.

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agree that cross-train too regularly without really sticking to

1 art before is not healthy.

But what if some technique that do not exist in your style?

Quite clear that no ground fight in Wing Chun or at least

"Traditional" one if you like to label that.

Would you train some wrestling or BJJ also?

Just do that for Insurance....

Accident would happen sometime....

you can't compare BJJ to WC. both are totally different arts.Both have different techniques and ways of fighting,but what's important is if your a WC guy if can you counter the BJJ guys moves.If you can then there is not need to study to it.I think you can find alot of the answers in your style if you look hard enough.I'm not saying WC has all the answers because no art even BJJ has all the answer.

No problem.

Everyone get their own choice.

One should not force another to accept one's opinion.

Surely, BJJ does not have all answer that why many BJJ

guys also learn another striking art.

P.S. Even Leung Jan has learnt another Kung Fu during his life.

Darkness grants me pair of dark black eye,

Yet I determine to look for Brightness

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Quite clear that no ground fight in Wing Chun or at least

"Traditional" one if you like to label that.

Would you train some wrestling or BJJ also?

Just do that for Insurance....

Accident would happen sometime....

There is ground fighting, using the theories and concepts of Wing Chun in the traditional WC that I study. This aspect of the art is taught to the higher level students.

As Stone Crusher says, you can find a lot of the answers in the style that you study.

Use your time on an art that is worthwhile and not on a dozen irrelevant "ways".

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