Martiol Arts outlawed in the US?

[y2_sub]

It defiantly shows your posting abilities ,lol

[kivikala]

Gee too bad the arts aren't outlawed! We'd get rid of the McDojos.

[y2_sub]

What the hek , that's the best idea to get rid of McDojo's , this way McInstructors will disappear and real sensei will continue to instruct no matter what

[MizuRyu]

I don't know of any 'outlawed' martial arts... but if there were anywhere it's safe to assume it's because they can be used as tools of murder, and some countries would rather not have that openly taught to anyone who can pay 40 bucks a month.

[lordtariel]

Someone told me once that a black belt is considered equal to a weapon by law , and if you beat someone up and the police knew that you have a black belt , they consider it equal to beating him with a stick or a baseball bat

I doubt it though

I think the problem lies more in the eyes of a jury who thinks those crazy martial arts people have mystical powers and should be able to subdue anyone with their pinkey. After all, that's how it works in the movies. I think it really comes down to a matter of using only sufficient force to ensure your safety.

[Sohan]

Someone told me once that a black belt is considered equal to a weapon by law , and if you beat someone up and the police knew that you have a black belt , they consider it equal to beating him with a stick or a baseball bat

I doubt it though

I think the problem lies more in the eyes of a jury who thinks those crazy martial arts people have mystical powers and should be able to subdue anyone with their pinkey. After all, that's how it works in the movies. I think it really comes down to a matter of using only sufficient force to ensure your safety.

In Georgia we now have the right to use "deadly force" against someone out in public if we believe our lives or property are in danger. Martial artists can be held to a higher standard if their skills are brought up in court, but the onus is really on the state to make the case that the force was unjustified.

I'm no lawyer but this is how I understand it.

Respectfully,

Sohan

[marie curie]

Someone told me once that a black belt is considered equal to a weapon by law , and if you beat someone up and the police knew that you have a black belt , they consider it equal to beating him with a stick or a baseball bat

I doubt it though

I think the problem lies more in the eyes of a jury who thinks those crazy martial arts people have mystical powers and should be able to subdue anyone with their pinkey. After all, that's how it works in the movies. I think it really comes down to a matter of using only sufficient force to ensure your safety.

In Georgia we now have the right to use "deadly force" against someone out in public if we believe our lives or property are in danger. Martial artists can be held to a higher standard if their skills are brought up in court, but the onus is really on the state to make the case that the force was unjustified.

I'm no lawyer but this is how I understand it.

Respectfully,

Sohan

Ok, I'm pretty sure that I've posted this two or three times before.... but repeat threads most certainly happen.

There is no "per se" law reguarding martial artists or black belts, such as, "If you are a black belt, then you can not XXXX."

There is a concideration of "reasonable response". If the court knows that you are a martial artist, and you went nuts on some guy, then they are probably going to say that you had the reasonable ability to stop the danger to you, before going that distance - turning the original aggressor into the victim, and you into the aggressor.

Also, lawyers can paint a picture to a jury of you being a crazy ninja going around killing people for fun or whatever, if you don't have good charater witnesses and "good standing" in the community.

Note for fun and knowledge- Never take someone's weapon away from them, and beat them with it- this also switches the aggressor/victim rules, and you will be in trouble.

[Tef]

I don't know about other states, but in California, there's an excessive force law. It's sorta like what you might learn in Dojo: you end the fight to the exact point that your agressor is no longer able to fight and then you run away. The only time the Jury can penalize anyone Martial artist or not is when they continue to beat up their aggressor after the point of fight-ending. If a person does that, then the roles are switched in the eyes of most juries. Although, i will admit that some jury members might ask the question: "if you're a MA, couldn't you have just done (enter a really ignorant stereotype of MA here)?"

[parkerlineage]

I think the problem lies more in the eyes of a jury who thinks those crazy martial arts people have mystical powers and should be able to subdue anyone with their pinkey.

You can't do that, yet?

It's sorta like what you might learn in Dojo: you end the fight to the exact point that your agressor is no longer able to fight and then you run away. The only time the Jury can penalize anyone Martial artist or not is when they continue to beat up their aggressor after the point of fight-ending.

I'd heard that.

[quotSkeetquot]

actually caporiera was outlawed in the U.S in the mid 1970s.....cant remember why but i know thats where break dancing comes from .....but now I dont think any type of M.A is out lawed now...