The Undiscovered Style of MMA

[UseoForce]

hey, this is MY thread and I say we get back to the topic!

[y2_sub]

LOl.. you started it but you can noy control how it goes

[Goju_boi]

mua ha ha ha ha ha ha!

[UseoForce]

How do you think the UFC would be different if finger and wristlocks were allowed?

[Goju_boi]

well I think more aikido practitioners would be in it.As well as more traditional arts practitioners

[y2_sub]

By the way , is there any Aikido practitioner in UFC ?? I have never seen one of those guys competing in MMA b4

[Goju_boi]

By the way , is there any Aikido practitioner in UFC ?? I have never seen one of those guys competing in MMA b4

Well theres this guy that does Aikido and Kung fu and hes a professional fighter,his name is Jason DeLucia.By the way he is a member of this website.You can look up his info on https://www.sherdog.com

[UseoForce]

I decided to bring my old thread back from the dead because it got so many hits last time. Obviously, people are interested in this topic. We got a little off track last time, so let's start fresh:

Styles like wrestling, judo, BJJ, Muay Thai, and kickboxing have all proven their worth for NHB competition. Is there an "undiscovered" style out there that has yet to prove its usefulness for NHB?

[bushido_man96]

Anyway- to the original question, that's the thing about MMA, it has shown what works and what doesn't.

I disagree, at least not with the present day MMAs of UFC and Pride, with all their extra rules. In the early 90's, when it started happening here in the U.S., it was a great thing. Now, not so much... and people are focusing more on things that are 'within the rules' and that work best under the restrictions of said competitions.

Depends what it is you're referring to as "working the rules."

Today's fighters in the UFC are light years ahead of anyone who fought in the original ones. They would in fact maul any of those fighters regardless of the ruleset.

The biggest problem I have with the rules is the frequent standups, which heavily favors the strikers. Most of the rules instilled in MMA events favor the strikers over the grapplers. The exception being kicking a downed opponent (or an opponent on his knees) which is another one I really dislike.

However, looked at from a different perspective, this is technically a good thing, because it pushes the grapplers to incorporate striking into their style much more so than they would otherwise have to.

I don't feel that the rules heavily favor strikers. The ONLY rule that heavily favors the strikers is the standup rule. They fight on a padded mat, with a fence to hold on to....these favor the grapplers. Most of the rules affect areas that would be struck, like the groin. Grapplers can choke out their opponents, but a striker can't strike the throat (for obvious reasons, I realize), but the restriction here is obvious.

I also don't feel that the guys today could "maul" all of the former fighters. Making generalizations like that is pointless. They have all seen the fights, and if they were going to continue their careers, they would have changed with the times as well.

One style that I don't think is well represented is boxing. Now don't get crazy, here is why. Yes, they do strike, but do you really think these guys could slug it out like they do against a professional boxer, with their technique? Professional boxers have such good, fast hands, and clean technique. It is easy to see the difference between the two. When UFC guys start slugging, they just look like a toughman contest. IMHO.

[DokterVet]

How do you think the UFC would be different if finger and wristlocks were allowed?

I think wristlocks are allowed. They just aren't high percentage techniques.

I think "small joint manipulation" refers to fingers and toes. Attacking the ankle is definitly allowed, and I think the wrist is comparable.

The only wrist lock I've seen in MMA was Royce Gracie vs. Akebono in K1. Royce finished Akebono with a wrist lock after abandoning an omoplata set up.

We practice wrist locks on the ground at shootwrestling. They can be effective holds if you catch your opponent's arm out of position, but they don't get taps nearly as often as holds attacking the elbow, or shoulder or chokes.

EDIT: Also, even if the UFC does not allow wrist locks, K1 MMA matches definitely do. There doesn't seem to be more aikidoka or traditional MAists fighting in K1 MMA matches over UFC, so I don't it is true that we would see more of those types of MAists in the UFC if wrist locks were allowed.