elbows_and_knees Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 you guys have been saying that adrenaline saps your energy,right?Well when you have an adrenaline rush don't you get more energy and strength?you do, but it's temporary... very temporary. the fight or flight response it something that happens quickly... we have all heard the stories of the old woman who lifts the car so her grandkid can climb from under it. Also, think of how quickly most fights are over... When the duration is longer, your reserves will be gone. That old woman couldn't hold the car any longer than a few seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbows_and_knees Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 [*]And while modern MMA competitions and studies present a 'newer' and more 'expansive' full-resistance set of studies, it still emphasizes the 'non-lethal.'non-lethal is in the eye of the beholder. An elbow to the head can kill. There have been several deaths in thailand from kicks to the neck. I understand what you are getting at, but I'm not sure that mma can be classified as non-lethal. a kick to the neck can kill. a sustained choke can kill. all submissions can maim, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Warlock Posted September 13, 2005 Share Posted September 13, 2005 I do understand your point e&k. Accidents do happen, but if the intent is to tear out a larynx, gouge eyes, break spine, remove reproductive organs and tout them around... it makes a big difference. Lethal is on the 'target, use and intent.' And i think you'll agree that the majority of present-day martial art schools don't teach such with proper mindset or intent. The difference between high school and real school is the intensity and intent. When they're not merely out to 'beat you up,' but are aiming to 'end your life,' niceties go out the window. They have to, because the situation requires a 'real' no-holds barred approach.But i should have not said lethal, as i should have said maiming, or similar. I suppose there is a difficulty in finding the right words here, at least on my part. What i was trying to present was that of things like pulling off ears, breaking fingers, hooking and tearing of the nose, gouging or puncturing of the eyes, and some of those i mentioned above, as well as utilizing weapons, improvisation, exploit of battlefield irregularities, use of psychological warfare (sometimes referred to as gambits when such is applied to single persons or small units), etc.And to bring up a personal point: When i've grappled various persons in dojos or on the mat, i've found plenty of 'opportunities' to do serious, irreparable damage to my opponent. But, obviously that is not the intent, and thus i refrain. Instead i focus on working for a finishing technique or in getting a 'clearly' dominant position. I will admit, though, i have used gambits in many of these cases... whispering distractions in their ear, breaking down their resolve or causing 'adrenalin' to rage... and thus mistakes and fatigue. "When you are able to take the keys from my hand, you will be ready to drive." - Shaolin DMV TestIntro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goju_boi Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 you guys have been saying that you can die in a nhb competiton or a regulated competition.But the truth is you can die doing just about anything.How many high school kids have you heard of that died while in basketball practice?A lot,so sometimes rules arent the only factor. https://www.samuraimartialsports.com for your source of Karate,Kobudo,Aikido,And Kung-Fu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2_sub Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 you guys have been saying that you can die in a nhb competiton or a regulated competition.But the truth is you can die doing just about anything.How many high school kids have you heard of that died while in basketball practice?A lot,so sometimes rules arent the only factor.I have never payed attention to that point , you're right !!!!!!! A guy died last month in a soccer match , so I guess accidents happen Moon might shine upon the innocent and the guilty alike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goju_boi Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 exactly it can happen anytime,that's why theres no need to worry what way you choose to practice as long as it fits you and you enjoy it. https://www.samuraimartialsports.com for your source of Karate,Kobudo,Aikido,And Kung-Fu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbows_and_knees Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 you guys have been saying that you can die in a nhb competiton or a regulated competition.But the truth is you can die doing just about anything.How many high school kids have you heard of that died while in basketball practice?A lot,so sometimes rules arent the only factor.What? No we don't, AFAIK. I only used the examples I used becuase thailand has had seeral deaths occur. Chances are, you will not die in a sport fighting match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goju_boi Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 true,chances are you wont die in a sport fight,but it's happened before.Also what is AFAIK? https://www.samuraimartialsports.com for your source of Karate,Kobudo,Aikido,And Kung-Fu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbows_and_knees Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 AFAIK = as far as I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2_sub Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 People also die in point sparring matches , some shotokan practitioner told me that a guy from his school died in a match from a heart attack Moon might shine upon the innocent and the guilty alike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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