UseoForce Posted August 22, 2005 Author Share Posted August 22, 2005 I wouldn't say kempo is undiscovered, seeing as the light heavyweight champ is a 4th degree BB in it. If it works, use it!If not, throw it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLueDevil Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 Sure Chuck trains in kempo and frank mir is a black belt in american kempo but 2 fighters out of a whole roster is a pretty weak base to stand on when talking in terms of comparison to BJJ or Muay Thai or even wrestling. I would lok to see kempo concepts in action more in the octagon There is no teacher but the enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbows_and_knees Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 catch has been brought up for years on the mma scene... I think the biggest problem is availability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubGrappler Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Abu Dhabi has helped submission grappling grow in leaps and bounds over the past couple of years, so much more than the past thousand years have done in fact.Submission wrestling is starting to blend all aspects from all different types of grappling arts. People are no longer "BJJ" fighters, or "Judo" or "Wrestling."People are adding anything effective they find from any other style. In fact, the surprising thing at this years Abu Dhabi was how the BJJ fighters were using well executed footlocks, which was considered a rariety.People are learning how to utilize takedowns, footlocks, and all different kinds of maneuvers. Submission wrestling is incorporating all kinds of techinques now from different styles, and though no one has been labeled a "catch wrestler" in Abu Dhabi, I find it hard to believe they would bring anything new to the table (not that they havent contributed already). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UseoForce Posted August 23, 2005 Author Share Posted August 23, 2005 That is very true.However, my first hand expierience with catch is that there is just a much greater VARIETY of submissions than any other grappling art I've seen. Of course, by now, it probably has BJJ, JJJ, and sambo influence too. BTW, does Abu Dhabi allow wristlocks? If it works, use it!If not, throw it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goju_boi Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 I think pankration should be in the ufc.Pankration is pretty much mixed martial arts. https://www.samuraimartialsports.com for your source of Karate,Kobudo,Aikido,And Kung-Fu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UseoForce Posted August 23, 2005 Author Share Posted August 23, 2005 When you say pankration, are you referring to the Jim Arvantis kind (historical) or the modern kind? If it works, use it!If not, throw it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goju_boi Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 When you say pankration, are you referring to the Jim Arvantis kind (historical) or the modern kind?hmm,good question.Well I guess both,but the modern is more for sport.So I guess the modern is better for UFC. https://www.samuraimartialsports.com for your source of Karate,Kobudo,Aikido,And Kung-Fu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubGrappler Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 That is very true.However, my first hand expierience with catch is that there is just a much greater VARIETY of submissions than any other grappling art I've seen. Of course, by now, it probably has BJJ, JJJ, and sambo influence too. BTW, does Abu Dhabi allow wristlocks?Yes, Abu Dhabi allows wristlocks.No, I dont believe that catch has a greater variety of submissions, they simply like to attack whatever is near them, which happens to be feet alot of the time. There are only so many ways to choke a guy out or dislocate his arm in so many positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UseoForce Posted August 26, 2005 Author Share Posted August 26, 2005 lol very true. I wish the UFC allowed wristlocks. Might see a hapkido guy or two:D! If it works, use it!If not, throw it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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