double leg takedown tips

[McNerny]

Hey everyone,

I have a question about the double leg. Sometimes I have some trouble getting all the way before my opponent sprawls and stops it. I know how to use level changes before I shoot in but sometimes these are also predictable. Any tips on setups for the double leg?

Thanks.

[SubGrappler]

One of the important things about wrestling is to have complimentary moves.

There was a guy I used to train with who would only shoot for the legs, and would telegraph heavily by STARING straight at his opponents legs. This will make anyone ready with a sprawl.

Firstly, you should only shoot if you're close enough to touch your opponent. Shots from any distance further are simply too far away and a waste of energy.

Secondly, do you try to tie up and clinch at all, or do you only shoot doubles? If you only try one move, perhaps thats why your opponents seem to defend it.

Lastly to set up the double. Make sure to keep your sights eye level so you dont give away what you want. Ideal times to shoot are when your opponent is moving towards you, or if he crosses his feet while he shuffles from side to side.

Try this basic shot setup- put your hand on your opopnents forehead. When your opponent reaches up to remove your hand, shoot in for the leg. If your opponent doesnt have good posture when he wrestles, you could also try to snap his head down, shooting immediately after doing so.

[Treebranch]

I agree with SubGrappler. It's all in the set up. It has to be a surprise. Also, learn other ways of taking someone down and keep your hips under you when you shoot.

[McNerny]

Hey,

Thanks for the tips.

[UseoForce]

Penetration step!

[Muaythaiboxer]

well setup is the big thing but there are other things like shoot the double then switch to a single leg or fireman takedown. good luck

AMITABHA

[White Warlock]

aye, what has been mentioned already is important. Additional actions to work on so as to not telegraph are:

• Do not lead with the head. Instead, drop by stepping in and down, bending at the knees, instead of the head or the hips. Leading with the head is the #1 reason why 'sprawls' work so effectively.
   
  Don't fail to recognize that he may push forward, which could cause you to have to flip-backwards in order to complete your takedown.
   
  Aiming right off for a double is an "all or nothing" venture. Try instead for a single, and then transition it to a double.
   
  The pushing at the top of the head, or the pulling of the neck toward you as indicated earlier are two good means to disrupt a person's balance, and prevent them from being able to sprawl quickly, but there are other more devious tactics:
  
  • Slapping is a tactic that, if done right, won't be considered a fault in competition and can really throw off your opponent.
     
    Grabbing the opponent's wrist and yanking their hand down and then to their face is a great entry technique, especially for a single-leg.
     
    An insult or some other derogatory, just a millisecond before entering can sometimes throw off your opponent, toss him into anger mode for a second and cause him to forget defense. It's worked plenty of times for me in competitions.
     
    A harsh yell also sometimes jars them into rigidity. You have to feel your opponent, but you'll be surprised, as much as they, when it works. It's also completely within the rules of competition.
     
    Asking them a question, such as their name, or if they have a girlfriend, or whether they finished their homework, or what their GPA is, or tossing out a riddle, etc. These are effective in getting them to lose focus. But, be careful you don't lose focus yourself. It's very much like 'telling' someone they have an itch. If you haven't mastered yourself, you could very well make yourself the one that is itching.
     
    The unexpected is much of what i'm mentioning here. Other examples of the unexpected are reaching for some chest hair (one or two strands is enough), putting a wet finger in their ear, tossing a riddle, etc. The idea is to throw them out of their game plan.
    

Obviously, there are plenty more thoughts... but i don't want to post all day.

[McNerny]

Don't fail to recognize that he may push forward, which could cause you to have to flip-backwards in order to complete your takedown.

Hey,

Are you talking about pulling him down with you as you do a backwards roll?

[White Warlock]

Are you talking about pulling him down with you as you do a backwards roll?

Not necessarily a direct backwards fall, as this would give your opponent the point (not to mention put you in a horrible position), but a switching to the side as you begin falling backwards. This would give you the point, especially if you mount immediately after. It is much harder to do if you are going for a double-leg, which is another reason why i recommend going for a single to a double.

[CagedWarrior]

Just to add a little something to think about- more of an NHB application... but keep your head facing straight forward, not down, and your shoulders shrugged. If you saw the last UFC (54), the last fight between that half-black,white guy and that roided-out guy who looked like a competing bodybuilder, you saw a painful explanation why.