kungfu boxing drills

[Son Goku the monkeyking]

look i am really happy that my sifu has finaly taught me the tan-tui form boxing drills u see we have many forms called the tantui forms like tan-tui 1, 2, 3, etc. and like many forms the movements tend to be effected but hard 2 find the right situation 2 use them in, so he taught me there boxing drills, a more practical side of them that shows the boxing application of them along with some of the other moves we no.:happy:

it is very easy to use and practicle witch got me wondering do any other styles that yall may take having a boxing application side to ur forms/katas?

PEACE

[martialarm]

I think any training in trapping has boxing application especially if you dont step backwards but only forward on the opponent.

Fighting to end it and boxing to get points are different and you dont want to get them confused

[ovine king]

why are you asking this?

did you think that forms/katas wre only pretty movements and without use?

[fallen_milkman]

Ovine King, I think almost everyone must think that. I can't fathom how someone learns forms without applications, myself. I have a lot of trouble if they say "Move like this" rather than "Move like you're doing this to this attack on a person standing so." Learning exactly what you are doing helps you visualize and fine-tune your forms.

[man thing]

I'm not sure that's what he's asking. He said "boxing" applications. Either my style doesn't have those as related to kata, or I don't understand the question.

[ROWSYAM]

can some one explain me what is the different of that boxing style

with muay thai and silat?

[Kajukenbopr]

Kajukenbo has very few katas and a lot of self defense techniques against: chokes,pushing or embracing, punches to the face, punches to the body, kicks, 1-4 man attack, groundfight etc.

the few katas we have can be used for self defense also, just dont think that you will use 20 specific steps to defeat just one person. a fight is different that performing katas.but Katas HAVE PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS if you are taught well and you can identify these movements as somehting more than just pretty movements

[ovine king]

...admittedly, there is also the point here that the tan tui forms really are taught and practised as sets of movements that you do in sequence. one of the things about them is that they assume a certain type of response to your particular movements, which was one of the things that i really didn't like as for a long time, all you and your partner do, is more or less dance the same dance until you've learnt the sequence/form.

i think that it spends too much time training you (in an incorrect way) to perform the sequence instead of using the sequence as a library. the style tends to have you learn the forms and train you to be proficient in performing them before even going anywhere near discecting them into component parts which from what i gather, not many (old/traditional) schools even do. Newer schools and especially those in china have adopted a 'loose hands' method and worked them into small drills that can be used in a san shou context but this is not even close to proper resistive training of the movements in the forms.

in short, a lot of schools of tan tui really just have you doing forms and then 'sparring' consists of you and a partner doing a little routine to show how the form can be used but in a pre-determined way.

in general, "tan tui" believes that within the forms as a whole, are movements that you can use against any type of move/countermove but the method of teaching doesn't lend itself very well to actual resistive practice. perhaps this is a reflection of it's age, it being one of the oldest forms of chinese martial arts. If you look at how tan tui (forms) tend(s) to be practiced and compare it to something like white crane, then hung gar or wing chun, you'd get what i mean.

of course, the last time i was part of a school that taught tan tui must've been about 12-13 years ago.

back then there wasn't so much attantion to live training and open competition formats.