tufrthanu Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 No he never said verbatim " I don't like karate". But it was very apparent from his attitude and his movies that he did not like japanese styles. You will notice that in almost all of he ones he starred in the kung fu practitioners were superior to the karate practitioners. And his writings and quotes on the issue seem to back this up. Long Live the Fighters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysc87 Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 of course, because, as mentioned, what most westerners considered MAs during his time was karate. his writings and quotes are one the weaknesses of structures styles, karate just being the most obvious one.*edit* oh yeah, what is "american" tkd? jsut wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tufrthanu Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 It's basically what Jhoon Rhee taught in this country. Although alot of schools teach it as more of a freestyle system with karate and tkd mixed together. Long Live the Fighters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysc87 Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 rhee? that guy from 'the best of the best'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tufrthanu Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 Um no. That was Philip Rhee...and his brother as Dae Han. Jhoon Rhee is one of the most famous tkd practitioners ever. Long Live the Fighters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysc87 Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 looked up his bio-- pretty impressive. buff for an old guy not to mention that his pic with ali and bruce lee are pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2_sub Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 Define racist !!!Someone that discriminates based solely on their race. Chinese and Japanese people are both eastern Asian, hence the term racist probably wouldn't apply.Fair enough"racialism is a form of discrimination based on race, especially the belief that one race is superior to another. Racism may be expressed individually and consciously, through explicit thoughts, feelings, or acts, or socially and unconsciously, through institutions that promote inequality between races" <-- Google Don't get me wrong , i have nothing against lee , however , he always underestimated Japanese culture ( and martial styles ) , I recently watched one of his movies where he works with 5 karate-kas in a restaurant , those karate-kas take some serious beating from 2 common thugs while he destroys them (thugs) , and then , in all the movie ,he tried to show that Chinese boxing is better than Japanese karateWell , thats a discrimination based on culture .... Moon might shine upon the innocent and the guilty alike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Warlock Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 Bruce Lee was both an actor and a martial artist. Actors have to be popular, or they don't get casted. He was making movies primarily for Chinese audiences, and there is a long-standing animosity between the Chinese and Japanese. Part of this has to do with the atrocities committed by the Japanese during WW2, but it reaches further back. Anyway, it seems pretty pointless to get into 'why' Bruce Lee said it, or anything else. At face value, what he presents sounds intriguing. After further analysis, there's some truth to it, even if it is far too generalized. However, all things have their respective applications, under a given system. Look, Bruce Lee was young. Younger than me at the time of his death, and younger still when he was interviewed and made those 'pompous' statements. He was playing a role, and he was doing it well. It was getting him tickets at the box office and earning him starring roles in movies. You can't take 'everything' he said at face value. In fact, i find far more truth in his writings, where ego and show are not being expressed, than i do for those times he puts on the mask, and speaks to the press. "When you are able to take the keys from my hand, you will be ready to drive." - Shaolin DMV TestIntro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dippedappe Posted August 14, 2005 Author Share Posted August 14, 2005 I recently watched one of his movies where he works with 5 karate-kas in a restaurant , those karate-kas take some serious beating from 2 common thugs while he destroys them (thugs) , and then , in all the movie ,he tried to show that Chinese boxing is better than Japanese karateWay of the Dragon. His second best film I think. You forget something. That movie was partly to show his art of Jeet Kune Do. And in that movie, those waiters were supposed to have just started their Karate training when the thug's started to harass the restaurant. Lee was supposed to have studied for a long time, so it's only natural that he would be a better fighter than the waiters. And in the film Bruce Lee said this about Karate: "foreign or not, if it helps you when you are in a fight, then you should learn to use it. It doesn't matter where it comes from. You should realize that."When he battled Chuck Norris in the last battle, Lee was using Gung Fu and Chuck was using Karate. And because of that Lee was loosing the fight. It was only when he started to use Jeet Kune Do that Chuck got beat up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. Orstrom Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 I have that film on DVD, and I always wondered how the waiters could be that bad and have black belts. Do they state in the film that they've just started? Perhaps I should sit down and see it again. The happiness of a man in this life does not consist in the absence,but in the mastery of his passions.Alfred, Lord Tennyson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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