Kyokushin vs. Hapkido

[y2_sub]

hey this link doesn't work

Try this one , http://www.k-1usa.net/docs/news/news.asp?news_id=40531 , if it dosen't work , put "k1 bows to kyokushin" in google .

[Goju_boi]

It works,thanks!

[White Warlock]

Hello White Warlock

just a question : Have you ever been in a kyokushin dojo ??

Yes. Walked in one time, sat down, watched, got up, shook the instructor's hand, called him David, patted him on the back, we went out for a drink (him a beer, me a soda), we talked about the good ol' times in high school, and then he went home to his kids, and i went to the airport.

Seriously though, that's the extent of my direct exposure.

what you c as a disadvantage of beeing exposed to takedowns , i look at it as an advantage of beeing able to strike even in a grappling position

I didn't point out all the advantages, I noted only the disadvantages. Regardless, while it may develop the ability to strike while in close quarters, or in grappling range, that was not my point. I must state that i am basing my thoughts on the 20 or so videos i've seen of modern-day kyokushin competitions, which i admit is merely a sampling. But, what i noticed was that 'all' of them fought while being closely pressed against each other, yet performed no grappling actions. I think this is significant, because grappling actions do change the dynamics of a conflict, the dynamics of that particular range... and thus while this type of competition may develop the ability to perform effective strikes at such a range, i did not see any demonstration of such strikes being performed while grappling actions hindered their mobility, or balance. I.e., each opponent was pretty much allowed to do what they wished, in the standard, "you punch, i punch, you punch, my turn" format that is so typical of many sparring-type competitions.

As to the k-1 comments, i agree that in those types of competitions, they have done well (as have the muay thai competitors)... but i also know they have not fared well in competitions that allow significant grappling (ufc, pride, etc).

Okay, my last tangent on this thread.

[Goju_boi]

hey what styles are featured in K-1?

[y2_sub]

edited :

Any style -or organization- can compete in k-1 as long as they adhere to it's rules which are the same as Muay Thai without the elbows . Fighters from many styles have already competed in k-1 such as karate , kick/Thai boxing , western boxing , TKD , kung fu , Capoeira ...... I have even seen a wrestler competing in a k-1 kickboxing match ( he got destroyed by a shidokan guy )

Edited August 28, 2005 by y2_sub

[Goju_boi]

how do you use capoeria and wrestling in K-1?And who were these guys?

[y2_sub]

how do you use capoeria and wrestling in K-1?And who were these guys?

Capoeira contains lots of strikes so it can be used in k-1 .

As for the wrestler goes , I don't remember his name but his striking skills where poor , the shidokan guy was toying him , he k.o.ed him in 30 seconds with a low kick .

Don't forget that k-1 sponsors MMA events now so the wrestler must have competed in MMA division and wanted to c what kickboxing looks like

[Goju_boi]

well I have no idea how capoeria would be used in a fight againts a kickboxer.Anyways if the wrestling guy has done kickboxing,then he isn't really considered a wrestler

[Menjo]

how do you use capoeria and wrestling in K-1?And who were these guys?

I think capoeria is used by most people for sport nowadays, so i think only a small group of people can really effectivly se the techniques.

[Goju_boi]

but their foot work and ,stances and the way they hold their hands is so weird for a kickboxing match