beaker Posted March 13, 2002 Posted March 13, 2002 I come from a background of traditional karate and have been out of training for about 10 years. Recently I started up again at a new club - the only reason I didn't go back to my old club was that I've moved out of the area. I guess I'd describe the new club as more of a sport karate place - the emphasis is very much on fighting and there is very little kata practice. When basics are covered it is at random - at my old club we did them very thoroughly and in a specific order based on the syllabus. The combat is quite heavy at the new place and there are people there trying to get into the England squad. They are good fighters but the majority have no interest in Kata and as such it is rarely covered. Traditional dojo etiquette is also not really part of this club - we do not stand in grade order, do not perform the formal bows and we do not ever recite the dojo kun. When I was last training I was studying for the 1st Dan grading, for which there was a 1.5 hr written exam as well as the practical. At the new club there is no written exam and the practical syllabus is not exactly set and is instead chosen at the whim of the examiner. Someone told me it could be just a few minutes, or it could last a day depending on how he is feeling. Personally I do not think this is what karate is all about. I prefer the tradition and the structure. At my old club we had a very thorough grounding in everything. I have been at the new club for a month, and visited my old club once when I was in the area. I learnt more at the session with my old instructor, to be honest. What are people's thoughts on differing teaching styles?
Bon Posted March 13, 2002 Posted March 13, 2002 Everyone teaches differently, everyone learns differently. My physics teacher at school, I just cannot understand anything she explains. When I have tutoring off another teacher, it's so easy! It takes sacrifice to be the best.There are always two choices, two paths to take. One is easy. And its only reward is that it's easy.
Ryukyu1 Posted March 13, 2002 Posted March 13, 2002 Sounds like you should look for another Dojo that caters more for what you are looking for.
Phantasmatic Posted March 13, 2002 Posted March 13, 2002 Wow, thats not right! I would either tell the director how you feel about it or leave the school altogether. "Which one is more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?" - Obi Wan Kenobi
Ryukyu1 Posted March 13, 2002 Posted March 13, 2002 There are alot of clubs like this that are only there for the competition circuit, great for sparring but not much else!
Karateka Posted March 13, 2002 Posted March 13, 2002 I have a school where it is very sport oriented. However, my Sensei says that you cannot be good at Kumite unless you do Kata. Kata gives you the balance necessary to be able to move fast and stay on your feet. A lot of people lack that. My dojo still maintains etiquette and our traditions, and we come first in all our comps whether it be Kata or Kumite. It is not hard to mix both and when you do, you get great results. "Never hit a man while he's down; kick him, its easier"Sensei Ron Bagley (My Sensei)
AnonymousOne Posted March 14, 2002 Posted March 14, 2002 We do alot of sport Karate but also have a solid balance with all other things like Kata, basics etc etc. I personally feel that a good balance is required. I also am in a very traditional and tough school where traditional Japanese etiquette is applied exactly as it is in Japan. I like the discipline. 7th Dan ChidokaiA true combat warrior has to be hard as nails in mind, body and soul. Warriors are action takers and not action fakers. If you are cruising, make time for losing
SaiFightsMS Posted March 14, 2002 Posted March 14, 2002 There have been many discussions, some heated, over the tradiontion and values of the martial arts. Kata and its importance can generate a lot of differing opinions. There are so many schools, and so many different styles of schools. So many ways the thing style is handled it can be mind boggling. Personally Beaker I agree with you in the importance of traditon including kata. A balanced apporoach to training. My school also has a written test for shodan.
Joecooke007 Posted March 15, 2002 Posted March 15, 2002 Oh well give me traditional anyday. Boards don't hit back. -Bruce Lee
DragonKata Posted March 22, 2002 Posted March 22, 2002 My dojo hold traditional values. We do not train for competition. We do kata, kumite, and circuit training. Also the basics. I don't think that one teaching method is better than another; just that karate for sport should be taught differently than traditional karate. Unity took a backseat sliding further into regression. Take my hand now, be alive. You see I cannot be forsaken, because I'm not the only one.
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