ysc87 Posted August 14, 2005 Posted August 14, 2005 well, all MAs that originate from all three countries have strong ties to buddhism, so that point is moot bjj- brazillian jujitsukm- krav maga
dippedappe Posted August 14, 2005 Author Posted August 14, 2005 well, all MAs that originate from all three countries have strong ties to buddhism, so that point is moot That's not what I meant. I was talking about meditation and all that stuff. The Chinese MA schools here in Denmark do not care about this. The Japanese and Korean MA schools do however care and do practice it. Since I'm a Christian, I want to stay away from Buddhism and all that. Therefore I will only go for Chinese styles because they don't do stuff like that.
KempoTiger Posted August 15, 2005 Posted August 15, 2005 well, all MAs that originate from all three countries have strong ties to buddhism, so that point is moot That's not what I meant. I was talking about meditation and all that stuff. The Chinese MA schools here in Denmark do not care about this. The Japanese and Korean MA schools do however care and do practice it. Since I'm a Christian, I want to stay away from Buddhism and all that. Therefore I will only go for Chinese styles because they don't do stuff like that.Funny thing is that I feel uneasy when in Kajukenbo schools because of their strong ties to the Christian faith, and little prayers that they do before classes. Irony "Question oneself, before you question others"
ysc87 Posted August 15, 2005 Posted August 15, 2005 well, all MAs that originate from all three countries have strong ties to buddhism, so that point is moot That's not what I meant. I was talking about meditation and all that stuff. The Chinese MA schools here in Denmark do not care about this. The Japanese and Korean MA schools do however care and do practice it. Since I'm a Christian, I want to stay away from Buddhism and all that. Therefore I will only go for Chinese styles because they don't do stuff like that.that is really strange everywhere else in the world, it's the chinese schools that emphasize meditation. and besides, you don't need to be buddhist to meditate, and not only that- meditation does help in the long run, believe it or not.
dippedappe Posted August 15, 2005 Author Posted August 15, 2005 and besides, you don't need to be buddhist to meditate, and not only that- meditation does help in the long run, believe it or not. Have I ever said that?
ovine king Posted August 16, 2005 Posted August 16, 2005 so what other aspects of the buddhist religion do they practice? earth is the asylum of the universe where the inmates have taken over.don't ask stupid questions and you won't get stupid answers.
Kajukenbopr Posted August 18, 2005 Posted August 18, 2005 well, all MAs that originate from all three countries have strong ties to buddhism, so that point is moot That's not what I meant. I was talking about meditation and all that stuff. The Chinese MA schools here in Denmark do not care about this. The Japanese and Korean MA schools do however care and do practice it. Since I'm a Christian, I want to stay away from Buddhism and all that. Therefore I will only go for Chinese styles because they don't do stuff like that.Funny thing is that I feel uneasy when in Kajukenbo schools because of their strong ties to the Christian faith, and little prayers that they do before classes. Irony Comes with the territory. If you practiced Chinese Martial Arts in China, you'd know somehting of Taoist phylosophy or Budah at the very least. Our founders come from a place where being christian was very important, and also, it helps keep in mind there's something bigger out there than us(its more like a protection prayer than actual praise).In my school, we dont really pray to the christian god but leave the prayer or meditation open to whatever you want to leave that time to. We know different people believe in different religions and phylosophies. <> Be humble, train hard, fight dirty
Kajukenbopr Posted August 18, 2005 Posted August 18, 2005 I dont see why someone taking Shaolin Kung Fu wold need to start training in WC specially if they want to train in something different- Dont u see you can master Shaolin and keep improving? you dont really need to train in something else, just take different points of view when in training.Wing Chun and kenpo or Kajukenbo would be a waste of money not because they are not competent but because you would be trying to mix stuff that works well on its own and by mixing those 2 without the needed experience/knowledge all you do is make it harder on yourself when you train. You end up learning bad WC or bad Kenpo and bad Kajukenbo.Look for a style that not only gives u excercises but leaves you comfortable with what you learn so you can be confident that what you learn is enough, so IF you have to use it someday it will come out "perfect" or as best you can.The best option I see is getting together in the week with someone who practices WC also, so you dont get left behind. <> Be humble, train hard, fight dirty
KempoTiger Posted August 18, 2005 Posted August 18, 2005 Comes with the territory. If you practiced Chinese Martial Arts in China, you'd know somehting of Taoist phylosophy or Budah at the very least. Our founders come from a place where being christian was very important, and also, it helps keep in mind there's something bigger out there than us(its more like a protection prayer than actual praise).In my school, we dont really pray to the christian god but leave the prayer or meditation open to whatever you want to leave that time to. We know different people believe in different religions and phylosophies.Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against Kajukenbo nor their (most master's) practicing of the Christian faith. I just was taken a bit off guard when I attended a seminar with Sijo and we all had to kneel for a short prayer. I was raised a Catholic, became a general Christian, and am now subscribe to a stance of unknowing agnosticism. But it's all good as long as we all respect each other and are working togethor on learning how to fight "Question oneself, before you question others"
ovine king Posted August 18, 2005 Posted August 18, 2005 the thing with the chinese and their take on religion is that it is more or less part of their culture i.e things that can be taken to be religious practice is inextinguishable from normal customary actions.The chinese culture is more or less a mongrol mix of buddism, taosim, ancestor worship, belief in a kingdom of gods/demi-gods, legend is mixed with history, gods are mixed with real people and a whole other big mess. earth is the asylum of the universe where the inmates have taken over.don't ask stupid questions and you won't get stupid answers.
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