Grappling Dummies

[McBeth]

I was interested in knowing what everyone's opinion was on purchasing a grappling dummy. Here are some specific questions:

1. Does anyone have actual experience with these? And if so, has it been useful or useless?

2. What were the benefits of having the dummy?

3. What were the limitations of using the dummy?

4. If you found the grappling dummy beneficial, what dummy (and what company) did you use or would you recommend that I purchase?

[UseoForce]

There have been several threads like this. In the end, they are hard to find and extremely expensive. It'd be nice to have around, but I wouldn't shell out the 400-500 bucks most of them cost.

If anyone finds a quality, inexpensive dummy, start a thread, please!

[Manabimasho1]

They are a huge waste of time just like a wooden stand up dummy due to the following.

a. A dummy doesn't move and react to pain or leverage.

b. A dummy doesn't counter you so you can't learn to counter a counter.

c. A dummy doesn't give you a feel for how a jointlock should feel

d. A dummy doesn't give you a feel for how holds or submissions feel.

e. Throwing a dummy doesn't work as throwing a person. Leverage!

f. When down grappling you can't see the actual open spots .

g. You will never be fighting a dummy so why train with one.

h. When you combo hit a dummy it doesn't react and move with the hits.

I. if you ever groin hit then, spinning backfist a dummy in the head you need to stop because noone will be hit in the balls and have thier head in the spot that you aim for when spinning back fisting the head.

Ohhh man I could go on and on and on and on.

[White Warlock]

g. You will never be fighting a dummy so why train with one.

Oh, i don't know. I've fought a few dummies before. For that matter, i've trained with some too.

Anyway, in truth i don't think i would 'want' a grappling dummy. I'm sure one day i would come home to find out one of my friends had dressed it in lingerie and painted its lips.