SubGrappler Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 Hey,I have read that it takes a minimum of five years with to get a BJJ black belt. Five years with constant training. No summer breaks like some kids try to do at my dojo. McNernyTheres no minimum requirement for how long it takes to get a BJJ black belt- its just the natrual progression of things that happens to take that long to learn.I could literally count the number of people on one hand who have recieved their black belt in 5 years or less.Trying to get a black belt in time sooner is like someone who starts working out monday in preperation for his high school reunion on friday, and he wants to lose 20 lbs by then.In all seriousness, I dont take people seriously who try to figure the quickest way to get a black belt. Even at black belt, theres still so much to learn, and I've seen many a fighter who's been a black belt only to get handled once they face the quality competitors in the sport.Regardless if Lloyd gives you a black belt in 4 years or not, the color of the belt around your waist isnt going to make you any more or less of a fighter. I'd rather be a dominanting blue belt, than a good purple or an average brown belt. In the end, once you start throwing the hands, the belt isnt going to dictate how well you fight.
Shane Posted August 26, 2005 Posted August 26, 2005 I've started adding BJJ to my training a few months ago and I'll tell you that there is no way that someone with not a lot of experience prior to starting could be at that level in three years even if they picked up on things fast, and even if they got as skilled as a true BJJ black belt I dont see how they would have had the time to learn instructor skills since each moment training would have to be perfecting their technique to even dream of doing this in 3 years.Anyways I've read about the program it could be an awsome one and looks like you get some good info to really benifit you but I cant see it bringing you to that level that fast. BJJ is one style that when I hear someone has a black belt in I donttotally think to my self THAT MEANS NOTHING TO ME, thats due to the normally high standards and time it takes to get it to where a lot of other styles I could care less what belt they have we will see during sparring sessions rather it be on the mat or stand up. A True Martial Arts Instructor is more of a guide than anything, on your way to developing the warrior within yourself!!!!!
Euro Guy Posted August 30, 2005 Posted August 30, 2005 I have trained with Lloyd Irvin for about 2 years in the past. He did in fact get his BJJ BB in 3.5 years and has just one Gold in the Mundials at Brazil. He did not even start Judo until he was a Brown Belt in Jiu Jitsu and got his BB in that in about 1.5 years. He has also gotten his BB in Sambo. This guy is as real as it gets. He has just given Mike Fowler a BB in 4 years. Mike Fowler was a HS wrestler that lost most of his matches, as a WBelt he was avg. Then he got into the BluePrint and 4 years later = BB in BJJ. How did he do it? He (and Mike Fowler) did BJJ full time, in addition, they take massive amount of notes and actually really study their notes. It is important to mention that Lloyd just got gold in Brazil after coming off a serious neck injury that could have paralized him, he fought against Doc' orders. If he was a bit younger and less injured he would have been great in the UFC. He trains people to use their brains a lot more than brawns. He is a genius.
SubGrappler Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 Mike Fowler was a HS wrestler that lost most of his matches, as a WBelt he was avg. Then he got into the BluePrint and 4 years later = BB in BJJ. .So, he has in fact been training BJJ for 5 years- he did 10 months prior to Lloyd, and then 4 more with him.[/b]
TJS Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 I still havent made up my mind on the grappling blueprint thing..it does have alot of wisdom behind it but i have heard it very general...not sure it if would help me.
supergalactic Posted August 31, 2005 Posted August 31, 2005 I still havent made up my mind on the grappling blueprint thing..it does have alot of wisdom behind it but i have heard it very general...not sure it if would help me.Get it, it works Josh Koscheck the human blanket
SubGrappler Posted September 1, 2005 Posted September 1, 2005 I guess the bluepring would help, but to be quite honost, training with any instructor when the both of you are determined to cover the ground that Lloyd advertizes to would yield similar results.Blueprint or not, you have to bust your * in order to get a black belt in BJJ.
Steve_K Posted September 27, 2005 Posted September 27, 2005 Can someone explain what this "blueprint" is? Is it like a detailed theory of BJJ or what?
SubGrappler Posted September 28, 2005 Posted September 28, 2005 Basically, I believe that Lloyd sat down and figured out a precise set of techniques and when to train them in order to meet maximum results.For example, you go to a typical BJJ class, it seems you learn moves at random- Lloyd Irvin I believe put some method to the madness to get you working on the techniques that can best improve your game.I cant explain in too much detail- I dont follow it, but check out https://www.lloydirvin.com if you dare to be spammed by email........
Steve_K Posted September 28, 2005 Posted September 28, 2005 If that is the case (above), and he was really able to put an order to the technique, then it really would only make sense that it would speed up your progress.
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