Gekisai

[y2_sub]

All kata is good kata. We get gekisai sho and dai from shotokan do we not?

I am not sure , but i think we got the gekisai katas from goju ???

[Solo]

My club (Goju Ryu) teaches Gekisai Ichi to White Belts and Gekisai Ni to Yellow Belts.

[ivette_green]

I am not sure , but i think we got the gekisai katas from goju ???

Oh yeah, that sounds right, I got confused.

[kyospirit]

Yes we have Gekisai from Goju Ryu , also Sanchin , Tensho and Saifa are all southern katas, Sosai learn them from So Nei Chu , his goju teacher. Gekisai means conquer and occupy. The name is derived from the characters Geki, meaning attack or conquer, and Sai, meaning fortress or stronghold (literally translated as "closed", "shut" or "covered"). The word Gekisai can also mean demolish, destroy or pulverize. The katas teach strength through fluidity of motion, mobility and the utilization of various techniques. Flexibility of attack and response will always be superior to rigid and inflexible strength.

[Goju_boi]

like solos dojo,I learned gekisai dai ich when i was a white belt and gekisai dai ni at yellow,but theyre supposed to start katas at my dojo from yellow on up

[stoneheart]

I am not sure , but i think we got the gekisai katas from goju ???

Oh yeah, that sounds right, I got confused.

Actually Chojun Miyagi, the founder of Goju, developed the Gekisai kata with the assistance of Shoshin Nagamine from Shorin-Ryu. While Miyagi should get most of the credit for the kata, it's probably inaccurate to say them came from Goju exclusively.

[Goju_boi]

I am not sure , but i think we got the gekisai katas from goju ???

Oh yeah, that sounds right, I got confused.

Actually Chojun Miyagi, the founder of Goju, developed the Gekisai kata with the assistance of Shoshin Nagamine from Shorin-Ryu. While Miyagi should get most of the credit for the kata, it's probably inaccurate to say them came from Goju exclusively.

so shorin ryu also has this kata?

[b3n]

I didnt learn Gekisai Dai/Sho until after i got my shodan either.

And no, shorin-ryu dont have any gekisai kata.

[b3n]

Origins of Kyokushin Kata

Kyokushin kata are often categorized as "Northern Kata" or "Southern Kata," based upon their origin and development.

The Northern Kata are similar to those found in Shotokan Karate, since they were developed from Mas Oyama's training under Gichin Funakoshi. Master Funakoshi in turn derived these kata from northern Chinese kempo and Shorin Ryu, the Okinawan karate style based on Chinese Shaolin (i.e. "Shorin") kempo. These kata utilize long, powerful stances and strong blocks and strikes. The Northern Kata include:

Taikyoku Sono Ichi, Ni and San

Pinan Sono Ichi, Ni, San, Yon and Go

Yansu

Tsuki no Kata

Kanku

Sushiho

The Southern Kata were developed from Mas Oyama's study of the Okinawan karate style of Goju Ryu under So Nei Chu, which in turn were derived from southern Chinese kempo. The movements in these kata are more circular and flamboyant than those in the Northern Kata. The Southern Kata include:

Sanchin no Kata

Gekisai Dai and Sho

Tensho

Saiha

Seienchin

Garyu

Seipai

[stoneheart]

I didnt learn Gekisai Dai/Sho until after i got my shodan either.

And no, shorin-ryu dont have any gekisai kata.

Actually, they do. Nagamine's matsubayashi substyle is an obvious example, since he helped develop the first two gekisai kata. The gekisai kata are just called the Fukyugata kata, and matusbayashi practices the first two. Same basic pattern, however. Obviously the shorin-ryu people step differently and their punching technique has more of a step-through feel to it.