hapkido.. would you say it is "brutal"??

[Nick_sam]

i just saw the video clips of a hapkido demonstration. to me it looks like a sort of violent aikido. not saying this is bad. or good, just a comment. am i wrong to make this assumption about hapkido.

although, whether my presumption is right or wrong, it certainly does look very effective, and impressive too.

[Enviroman]

It's supposed to be a combination of Aikido and Tae Kwon Do...so I'm not sure if I'd call it brutal, but it's definitely much more aggressive then Aikido.

[viskous]

it does seem very effective in those videos yes, and im sure if the people those moves were being performed on werent trained there could be some nasty injuries, but i still wouldnt categorise it as brutal

[Muaythaiboxer]

no definatly not a brutal art compaired to Muay thai or koykushin but a very effective one none the less.

[ramonnavarro123]

Hi all and be blessed.

It is correct in the sence of it being a nasty art to use since that is what it is for. It is for the street not for sport. The person involved in a tournament with HapKiDo ways it would reseive injury easily there for this is the reason that we in HapKiDo do not allow it as a sport.

It sure is not a mixture of AikiDo with TaeKwonDo. In HapKiDo the kicks are diferent that they are in TaeKwonDo and I am profe of this since I have a Black Belt in TKD since aerly 1970 and it is very agresive, not for point fighting -do not get me wrong- and it is full of techniques that are similar to AikiDo but based on a smaler circle in its application but directed into striking the oponent not just controling him. As you all know that have experienced AikIDo that it is daqngerous too.

All our martial arts are good. HapKiDo in it self must not be seen as the best and only the best since what is best or not depends on how you use it, be it wrong or correctly, for self defence.

HAP

[tufrthanu]

Ramon is correct...both Aikido and Hapkido come from Aiki Jujutsu..and so share similarities. I personally have always thought that hapkido struck a better balance between offense and defense. Ramon is also correct about the circles. Aikido tends to use large circles whereas hapkido tends to make them as small as possible. Hapkido also uses alot of kicks and hand strikes that Aikido doesn't. As to the kicks it depends on what style of hapkido it is...some of the traditional styles never kick above the waist...my current style uses some but not alot of TKD kicks...and the Sin Moo HKD that I took used some flying kicks that were pretty far out even for TKD.

All in all I would say Hapkido is a very brutal art. Kyokushin Kai and Muay Thai can be brutal in practice I suppose but it's the training people are thinking of when they say brutal. Hapkido training is not usually brutal...however the application of the techniques can have devestating consequences.

[Nick_sam]

Ramon is correct...both Aikido and Hapkido come from Aiki Jujutsu..and so share similarities. I personally have always thought that hapkido struck a better balance between offense and defense. Ramon is also correct about the circles. Aikido tends to use large circles whereas hapkido tends to make them as small as possible. Hapkido also uses alot of kicks and hand strikes that Aikido doesn't. As to the kicks it depends on what style of hapkido it is...some of the traditional styles never kick above the waist...my current style uses some but not alot of TKD kicks...and the Sin Moo HKD that I took used some flying kicks that were pretty far out even for TKD.

All in all I would say Hapkido is a very brutal art. Kyokushin Kai and Muay Thai can be brutal in practice I suppose but it's the training people are thinking of when they say brutal. Hapkido training is not usually brutal...however the application of the techniques can have devestating consequences.

yeah i guess you are right about that. i suppose if i actually saw aikido in action in more realistic conditions you would end up with people being slammed on the floor face first and arms broken, so i guess its all relative. of course none of that would happen in the dojo!

a great thing about arts like hapkido and aikido is as well as learning how to evade and attack and turn the attack around to your advantage, you also learn how to recieve the attack. hapkido-ists (how do you say it?) have to learn to recieve kicks to the stomach, which seems harder than leaning how to fall or be taken down in a joint-lock.

it wouldnt surprise me if there were a couple of winded stomaches by the end of a hapkido session, lol!

[ramonnavarro123]

Hi and be blessed Nick_Sam.

You are corect in that one in HapKiDo do learn a lot on falls. Ok ! Also is true that we do a lot of defense and counter against kicks of all kinds as an attack to us. These techniques are in our curriculum at Blue Belt with 2 stripes, just before Red Belt. This here is for Song Moo HapKiDo as Grand master or better said as we call our teacher Master of Masters but better as Teacher of Teachers/KwanjangNim Mr. SongIL Park.

We have a very extended curriculum for sure and we also have a lot of training for the way it would be in real life situation but focus on self control and to be patience and not to be discontroled from an adrenalin rush. This is important to aur training for the benefit of the student in case of a street situation and that he or she can be safe at the end of an altercation.

Thanks for your comments.

HAP

[BLACCBILLYJACC]

Hi all and be blessed.

It is correct in the sence of it being a nasty art to use since that is what it is for. It is for the street not for sport. The person involved in a tournament with HapKiDo ways it would reseive injury easily there for this is the reason that we in HapKiDo do not allow it as a sport.

It sure is not a mixture of AikiDo with TaeKwonDo. In HapKiDo the kicks are diferent that they are in TaeKwonDo and I am profe of this since I have a Black Belt in TKD since aerly 1970 and it is very agresive, not for point fighting -do not get me wrong- and it is full of techniques that are similar to AikiDo but based on a smaler circle in its application but directed into striking the oponent not just controling him. As you all know that have experienced AikIDo that it is daqngerous too.

All our martial arts are good. HapKiDo in it self must not be seen as the best and only the best since what is best or not depends on how you use it, be it wrong or correctly, for self defence.

HAP

I love HKD but I also like to compete too & there are Tourneys in some places that my friends & I compete in regularly. Some are full contact without grappeling allowed, some are more point oriented but allows plenty of grappeling , also plenty of Hapkidoist like myself compete in kick boxing matches, You just have to modify & adapt to the rules) and we compete in grappeling matches (same theory applies)

Here's a link to a recent tourney in SOCAL. (just a few clips) and here's the info for that particular tourney. http://briefcase.yahoo.com//blaccbillyjacc

Edited August 3, 2005 by BLACCBILLYJACC

[BLACCBILLYJACC]

Also there's the link for it. http://www.pro-hapkido.com