Adonis Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 I understand that, its the same as samarai arts. Applying the samari attitude or spirit to other endevors. People seem to still dream though of ancient times and like to think Ninja's of old times still exist for some reason. Times of Ninja's, samarai, and knights and medivial armor have been done away with modern technology. Only to be left in movies and re-enactments of recreation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enviroman Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 I understand that, its the same as samarai arts. Applying the samari attitude or spirit to other endevors. People seem to still dream though of ancient times and like to think Ninja's of old times still exist for some reason. Times of Ninja's, samarai, and knights and medivial armor have been done away with modern technology. Only to be left in movies and re-enactments of recreation.Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dippedappe Posted July 31, 2005 Author Share Posted July 31, 2005 You are wrong with real Ninjas not existing, if this is what you are saying. There are still traditional Ninjas and Samurai in Japan: But thats more of trying to keep the traditions alive for being sort of a trademark for Japan. Much like Shaolin Wushu in China. They are of cause not doing what the traditions was created for anymore.those clips on ninjitsu.com were pretty cool,but I don't think all those acrobatics are really usefull in real lifeNinjas aren't meant for fighting in the most effective way. They are meant to kill in the most swiftest and stealthiest way, I would think that acrobatics are very useful if not essential for that purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adonis Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 They may have traditions of teaching that stuff but I serioulsy doubt in the full extent as it used to be. As well as they don't serve in the same fuctions they used to, because of modern technology and such. "Ninja's aren't ment to for fighting in effective way but the most swifest and steathiest way."Your contraditcing your self right there buddy. swift and steath is effective. So that saying made no sense. as well as big deal modern day special forces do the same look at the sniper training covers those same tactical thinking just employed diffrently then acient Ninja training. Either way I am done with this silly thread. Oh by the way tradition in japan has been put to the side as well. MMA has been bigger then alot of those traditional japense schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MenteReligieuse Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4704691.stmscary. college graduate ninjas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enviroman Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 You are wrong with real Ninjas not existing, if this is what you are saying. There are still traditional Ninjas and Samurai in Japan: But thats more of trying to keep the traditions alive for being sort of a trademark for Japan. Much like Shaolin Wushu in China. They are of cause not doing what the traditions was created for anymore.those clips on ninjitsu.com were pretty cool,but I don't think all those acrobatics are really usefull in real lifeNinjas aren't meant for fighting in the most effective way. They are meant to kill in the most swiftest and stealthiest way, I would think that acrobatics are very useful if not essential for that purpose.I think everyone was referring to ninja in their classical sense: acting as spies and assassins for the Japanese government. And samurai as military warriors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adonis Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Probably Oh and that site you sent, that is just espinage, that doesn't classify those guys as ninja's. It's a dead practice. Most places only study the empty hand, taijitsu, some weapons training and some interal aspects, but allot of the espinange techniques and other techniques aren't in high training order. Even killing techniques aren't high demand in the art. Any way I am done talking about make-believe Ninja's. Time to face modern times, and reality people. Day dream in your black pajamas, and sneaking around the neiborhood. All I have to say is "Ninja Please!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmGod Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Thats a shame.I have seen some clips of some Ninjas of moder time. Training both the traditional weapons aswell as guns http://www.ninjitsu.com/.Nice video, why are they all white?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dippedappe Posted August 1, 2005 Author Share Posted August 1, 2005 Your contraditcing your self right there buddy. swift and steath is effective. So that saying made no sense. I dont think I did. What I meant with what I said was, that they aren't training to be able to defend themself in a streetfight in the most effective way, or fighting other styles. They are training to put a Katana or Sai in the back of the victim without him or the others knowing it.Either way I am done with this silly thread.What is so silly about it? I'm not daydreeming of being Ninja of the old days. I train Kung Fu. I was only wondering about this question. Nothing silly about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbu Alex Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 You are wrong with real Ninjas not existing, if this is what you are saying. There are still traditional Ninjas and Samurai in Japan: But thats more of trying to keep the traditions alive for being sort of a trademark for Japan. Much like Shaolin Wushu in China. They are of cause not doing what the traditions was created for anymore.Ninjas aren't meant for fighting in the most effective way. They are meant to kill in the most swiftest and stealthiest way, I would think that acrobatics are very useful if not essential for that purpose.Whats not effective about swiftly and stealthly taking down an opponent and also i know in bujinkan is ment for street fighting there are alot of cops and army ppl in this style also all that flipping stuff is from the movies and most of the time you are being fooled cause they r showing you a nnja doing KarateI dont think I did. What I meant with what I said was, that they aren't training to be able to defend themself in a streetfight in the most effective way, or fighting other styles. They are training to put a Katana or Sai in the back of the victim without him or the others knowing it. if by Katana you mean gun then you r right also ninja didnt use sai thats a karate weaponalso tha video was just guys doing tkdFnally Ninjas were mainly spies which means that once in a while they did assinations the Shogun has his on group of samurai who were assasins alot of that came from the ninja boom in the 80's by fruads so ppl now have a mininterpatation of Ninjutsu White belt for life"Destroy the enemies power but leave his life" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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