your styles strengths and weakness's

[ovine king]

Y'know, I think we are saying the same thing. My point is, it is there and most people just don't look into it and then just say it doesn't exist. Or probably more accurately, most people aren't taught it and so the students don't know it's there.

[Menjo]

i agree and this happens alot too

[y2_sub]

So you are saying that grappling in karate is present but passive , I agree regarding that lots of katas in most karate styles contains locks and takedowns , however , karate in general is a standup striking system that contains some grappling .

Now speaking of my style’s (kyokushin karate ) weakness :

1-limited grappling and ground work

2-High number of injuries among fighters since they have to fight full contact all the time

[y2_sub]

For as much as I know about Goju, Sanchin kata performed incorrectly over time causes serious health problems and too much emphasis on kotate(sp?). I'm sure there's more... if there's any other Goju karateka reading, I'd be interested to hear what you've got... I'm not really experienced.

Hello Smitty

I was hoping the you explain the meaning of kotate . How exactly could the incorrect performance of the Sanchin kata cause health problems ???

p.s. : I perform the Sanchin kata kyokushin version every morning , I hope that I am performing it correctly , lol ..

[ShotokanKid]

Excuse me, let me rephrase:

We do not practice grappling for kumite.

[Smitty]

For as much as I know about Goju, Sanchin kata performed incorrectly over time causes serious health problems and too much emphasis on kotate(sp?). I'm sure there's more... if there's any other Goju karateka reading, I'd be interested to hear what you've got... I'm not really experienced.

Hello Smitty

I was hoping the you explain the meaning of kotate . How exactly could the incorrect performance of the Sanchin kata cause health problems ???

p.s. : I perform the Sanchin kata kyokushin version every morning , I hope that I am performing it correctly , lol ..

I'm no big expert on either subject... I read it at http://uechi-ryu.com/oldsite/breathng.htm and it has been mentioned on the boards as well, I believe. As I understand koteate(sorry for my faulty spelling), the pounding of arms and legs to make them more resistant to blows in combat, is bad from what I've been told by One Troof:

The other hard training that is harmful? Too much emphasis on koteate and hard sparring (which is something that Miyagi implemented BTW). There's a reason most of the Goju guys die younger than usual for an Okinawan.

But I haven't seen any evidence for this... But he appears to know what he's talking about from his previous posts. So I'll just go with it.

[y2_sub]

Excuse me, let me rephrase:

We do not practice grappling for kumite.

In another word , it's passive .

You (and I for the matter ) are just training on how to grapple but never using it in kumite - never puting it under real test - , training is something , and real application of the move is another thing

[Sauzin]

Sekichi Odo's Okinawan Kenpo

Strengths: Powerful techniques that were developed by a very small man to work against very big men. They involve precise timing, structure, relaxed musculature, and total body alignment.

We are very well rounded. We are just as comfortable with inside fighting as we are with outside fighting. We love to grapple, take down, and throw. Fist, open hand, or kicking, weapon or no. Tall, big, skinny it doesn't matter.

We practice techniques that work in a very wide variety of situations. Most of our techniques are not specialized to a particular application. As a result, it really doesn't matter what the opponent does or how he changes up. The technique still works. We don't come upon many situations that cause us to "slip up".

Weaknesses: We have bigger movements then some. This requires us to employ tricks that mask our movement, many of which are very difficult to master. It also makes us weak in initiating attacks.

We aren't as strong on the ground. While we do grapple and understand joint locks and maneuvers we don't practice them much on the ground.

We have been accused of overkill in the area of power and sometimes make sacrifices others would not to obtain it.

[Goju_boi]

I would say for goju ryu the strength are: great striking and kicking,great blocks,great joint locks,and great stances weaknesses:no weapons,lack of ground fighting, and maybe more

[ravenzoom]

Well for Judo I think they are quite obvious. Great for stand-up grappling and throws, as well as good ground fighting. Also, full contact randori makes you test your skills for real. Weaknesses, no punching or kicking per say, and no training in weapons.