Prodigy-Child Posted March 9, 2002 Posted March 9, 2002 i know the martial arts are for everyone and i love practicing with people of all ages dont take this the wrong way but.... i do get a little annoyed when i am doing drills with an older practicioner and they do not want me to throw them because they are afraid of throwing out their back ....... i find it quite hard to learn when i cannot do a full throw to see what it is like another situation is when i was practicing with this one older lady.....we were just practicing some wrist locks and she did not want me to apply it on her because she has "sensitive wrists" then when it was her turn she decided crank my wrist almost to the point of fracture i am 17 so im a youngin and i heal quickly so now i will only practice with people my age because i feel i am being short changed practicing with the older folk no offence to the older people here You can boo me if you want, You know I'm right!-Chris Rock
Joecooke007 Posted March 10, 2002 Posted March 10, 2002 I'm with you on this one. In our dojo classes are determined by age and then split again by rank. that way everybody in a class is on a similar level of fitness and skill. Boards don't hit back. -Bruce Lee
SaiFightsMS Posted March 10, 2002 Posted March 10, 2002 I do see your point prodigy. And the reasons you metion are why I chose not to do ju-jutsu or any grappling form for that matter. The way I see it when you do something you go for it. And if you find that you cannot handle some of the basics that the art builds its foundation on it is time to find something else. So I may not jump. That does not mean I do not try. Or that does not mean I try to find the most acceptable substitute that still performs the purpose of the move.
ramcalgary Posted March 10, 2002 Posted March 10, 2002 sometime training with know it all younger folk is a pain ....the ya ya I know it all gets old quick..also the i will take it easy on you cuz you have some grey hair thing...I understand what you are saying though..if you dont want to get flipped punched or joint locked go home and watch Oprah or go do your tai chi somewhere else Honor is the most important thing a man has once you lose it it is gone forever
Prodigy-Child Posted March 11, 2002 Author Posted March 11, 2002 im not one of the know it all youngins i believe we can all learn from eachother no matter what sex age or rank you are but i just want to practice a technique "all the way" i cant do it because the older people cant handle it due to a bad back or whatever........i just feel it is effecting my learning and progress as a martial artist i am one of the 3 youngest people in the adult jiu jitsu program at our dojo.....our sensei splits all the young people up and makes us go with the older people i just get frustrated thats all..... You can boo me if you want, You know I'm right!-Chris Rock
spinninggumby Posted March 11, 2002 Posted March 11, 2002 On the topic of Tai Chi (or Taiji), it is a common misconception that it is a great art for 'old people' or people who have retired from some art that is known to be more strenuous (i.e. perhaps Muay Thai, boxing, etc.). Taiji is an art that takes a long long long time to master and the benefits are not as apparent or superficial as most other arts, but perhaps they are more worthwhile depending on personal opinion. Just as with any other art, the younger you start taiji the better (simply because you have more time left in life to continue to learn, refine, and perfect what you have taken in). 'Conviction is a luxury for those on the sidelines'William Parcher, 'A BEAUTIFUL MIND'
KickChick Posted March 11, 2002 Posted March 11, 2002 Certain martial art styles are better suited for "older" students although I do find that allowances are made even in these styles for a variety of reasons... i.e. poor flexibility, problem in jumping, poor endurance/cardio levels, forms---um, um, um, oh! forgetfulness too. I mean some things can be worked on while others are roadblocks caused by age or physical limitations. Now does this warrant an individual to be paid less attention to or more attention to ... or to mainstream them into the rest of the class. Should there be a "senior" class (much in the same way there is a "little dragons" type class for the 4,5,6 yr olds. I don't think the numbers of older students warrant this course of action yet although the trend has been starting martial arts at an "older" age (especially now with 9/11 and everyone's desire to know selfdefense because of it). _________________ 1st dan Black Belt Tae Kwon Do (ITF)/ CardioKickbox/Fitness Instructor [ This Message was edited by: KickChick on 2002-03-11 10:25 ]
SaiFightsMS Posted March 12, 2002 Posted March 12, 2002 A seperate senior class? Well in some places there are enough people in older age ranges to support a class. There are some schools currently working on adjusting cirruculums to meet the needs of those who wish to continue to train as they age. I do think as the population of those currently training ages there will be more such programs. And hopefully more people beginning to train at an older age. Since this is a judo/ju jitsu grappling area, does anyone think that the grappling styles could succesfully adapt itself to accomadate an ageing population?
Ryukyu1 Posted March 13, 2002 Posted March 13, 2002 Unfortunatly some schools don't have enough members to support a seperate junior and senior class. In this case the do need to adjust the curriculum or how the class is give in order to cater for all students. I have noticed that some older people who who like to join a MA club are some times put off by the fact that they would be training with younger and fitter individuals and may be a minority. One must never forget we will all get old someday and gradually will suffer different pains that we take longer to recover from. [ This Message was edited by: Ryukyu1 on 2002-03-13 08:37 ]
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