Can girls do training in the shaolin temple

[Muaythaiboxer]

actually nuns practiced many froms chuan fa and a nun ivented wing chun if im not mistaken.

there are still many monks who practice martial arts there are even whole monasterys in south east asia devoted to muay thai,krabi krabong, muay boran,

and in korea there are a few temples that train monks in tae kyon, kwan bop, and korea MA

and whitewarlock you are correct there really arnt really any more real shaolin monks.

[Daedalus]

actually nuns practiced many froms chuan fa and a nun ivented wing chun if im not mistaken.

there are still many monks who practice martial arts there are even whole monasterys in south east asia devoted to muay thai,krabi krabong, muay boran,

and in korea there are a few temples that train monks in tae kyon, kwan bop, and korea MA

and whitewarlock you are correct there really arnt really any more real shaolin monks.

Well if your talking about the legend of the origins of Wing Chun you might be correct but I would take that origin story with a grain of salt.

[Goju_boi]

Umm... no more shaolin monks.

There are still 'buddhist monks' that don't practice wushu, wushu practitioners that pose as buddhist monks, and buddhist monks that practice wushu. However, shaolin monks no longer exist, except as a marketing ticket.

I think that's the second time i've said this on this thread. Odd, eh?

check this website out https://www.shaolinusa.com i ts right in my home town,and they have been featured in the Kung-fu/Tai Chi magazine and this month they are featured in an article about broadswords for Inside Kung-Fu magazine

[White Warlock]

http://www.shaolinusa.com/shaolin4.html

Instructors

Instructor Sun Nuo: Affectionately known as "Coach" started training at the age of 10 with the Beijing Wushu team under Master Cui Ya Hui. Among the standard curriculum taught by the Beijing Wushu team his specialties include spear and straight sword (jian). He is the 2002 Chinese National Champion gold medallist in modern spear and silver medallist in long fist and straight sword. He has won numerous titles in the nationals and other competitions throughout China. He has performed in team and solo performances throughout the world.

I rest my case

[Goju_boi]

http://www.shaolinusa.com/shaolin3.html

Dasifu Shi De Shan

31st Generation Shaolin Kungfu Master

Master Shi De Shan is a 31st generation disciple and martial monk (wu seng) from the Songshan Mountain Temple linage. Shi Su Yuan, a 30th generation martial monk, accepted him as a disciple a gave him the religious name Shi De Shan ("Shan" means "Mountain"). As a child, Shi De Shan became a disciple of Shaolin, where he studied Gong fu from Master Shi Su.Shi De Shan's specialties are traditional Shaolin kungfu bare hand and weapons, hard qi gong and san da (san shou) sparring.

After completing his training, he remained in residence at the temple for a number of years as an instructor, primarily teaching Chinese military and police personnel. In 1998, Dasifu left China to perform in "Shaolin Kung fu of China" a 30 nation demonstration tour. After completing tour, the Shaolin Temple gave him permission to remain in the United States, open a Shaolin Temple school in Houston, Texas and promote Shaolin philosophy in America.

His travels have garnered him international reputation and many students have sought him out. He is one of the featured monks in the PBS documentary "Shaolin Odyssey" as well as, having articles about him featured in several martial magazines. In 2004, Mayor Bill White of Houston officially proclaimed a day in his honor.

Instructor Sun Nuo: Affectionately known as "Coach" started training at the age of 10 with the Beijing Wushu team under Master Cui Ya Hui. Among the standard curriculum taught by the Beijing Wushu team his specialties include spear and straight sword (jian). He is the 2002 Chinese National Champion gold medallist in modern spear and silver medallist in long fist and straight sword. He has won numerous titles in the nationals and other competitions throughout China. He has performed in team and solo performances throughout the world.

what about now?

[ovine king]

you are aware that most of the TRUE monks from shaolin were driven out or killed during the mao revolutionary years right? we are talking about an almost total wipeout. Then the shaolin temples were re-instated and a wushu program was put in place under the then title of quo-shu. This version of wushu had no martial application as it was carefully engineered out of the forms. This wushu is what is widely being taught.

In short, wushu and the stuff taught in the shaolin temple that now exists in china is not traditional shaolin kung fu. Sure they'd teach you some of the stretching and general exercises that are known from documented sources and the occasional 'original' forms but it isn't really 100% original shaolin.

However, since then, some outside sources of real shaolin kung fu has been re-introduced back into the shaolin curriculum in an attempt to regain some of the fighting skills that was taken out/away.

If you want real shaolin martial arts, you are better off looking for the sub-styles that are offshoots from shaolin-proper because these styles because of their often being based on family practices/teachings are going to be more authentic.

Dont get me wrong, the stuff they teach at the shaolin temple isn't all worthless as they do have a prett serious "hei ang gung" program and a lot of chinese bodyguards train in that as a basis for their professional work. Just don't have a too romantic view of what the shaolin temple is and what a shaolin monk is.

[Goju_boi]

ovine king,so your saying if I really want shaolin,I should do styles like choy lee fut ,wing chun,hung gra,eagle claw,etc?

[Muaythaiboxer]

actually the total wipe out occured much earlyer than that it was during the boxer rebellion in which both the north and south temples where destoryed and the off shoot of shaolin the wu-tang (no not the band) where also mostly destoryed by that time. it you want to go to a buddhist monastery to study MA there are many in thailand, korea and japan that still teach MA very seriously and in tibet there is the green cloud monastery where they still teach tibetan MA it is where the dali lama's body gaurds are trained and last i looked it has not yet been shut down by the chinese just very restricted.

AMITABHA

[Goju_boi]

I don't want to move over there,I just want to study their arts.

[ovine king]

actually the total wipe out occured much earlyer than that it was during the boxer rebellion in which both the north and south temples where destoryed and the off shoot of shaolin the wu-tang (no not the band) where also mostly destoryed by that time.

Not quite what i was refering to.

The first persecution happened was before then when the emporer got cold feet about the skills of the fighting monks and had the big temple burnt down (all legend of course). This was taken to be first cause of the spread of the chinese martial arts to the, for lack of a better term, common people.

The period you mentioned is slightly different and is again, full of debate. During the boxer rebellion, the empress dowager persuaded the Tibetan Bhuddists to help fight against the rebellion, the Ming emperors having been rather nasty to the Tibetan people previously and hence still hold a big grudge against the Ming (anti-ching) people. She also lead a campaign to turn the common people against the anti-ching people which to an extent, worked although a lot of this was also down to some of the downright evil things done by the anti-ching people. It was also common knowledge (whether it was true or not) that the anti ching people were using the shaolin temples as a training ground and a great many of them were learning shaolin skills. This obviously lead to the dowager keeping more than a harsh eye on them. Hind-sight would suggest that the supposed shaolin link was to semi-hide the real activities of the red junk opera troups. Whilst they were watched, they weren't as persecuted as they were during the mao period when they, the monks and any openly practicing bhuddists, were arrested and whatnot (sorry for seemingly belittling their treatment). It was during the mao period that all shoalin activity, both worship and martial practice, as well as martial practice of any sort anywhere else was shut down and everyone forced to "go farming".