oom yung doe. what is this?

[Nick_sam]

so, can anyone tell me what the deal is with this one?

i found this site: http://www.oomyungdoe.com

it definately looks showy, but it doesnt tell you anything about the style itself and what it involves.

any ideas?

[elbows_and_knees]

it is a style considered by many to be fraudulent. It is also considered by some to be cultish. It is also known as shaolin do.

[fallen_milkman]

I would disagree with the fraudulent claim. My teacher is a blackbelt in Shaolin-Do, and a few other systems, and I have fought a few other Shaolin-Do blackbelts. I don't like the art as much as I like kuntao, but I definitely wouldn't call it a bad art. Unless you meant something else by fraudulent? Such as lineage or some such?

I CAN tell you one thing. Many people believe it fraudulent due to a Japanese style belt system. This is only because it supposedly developed in Okinawa when Shaolin trained monks fled China. They adopted Japanese training methods to hide amongst them. Or so I have been told.

Edited August 21, 2005 by fallen_milkman

[Nick_sam]

well it does seem a tad fishy to me. not as an art, but how it seems to be presented - in a "if you learn this, then you can do all these flashy moves" sort of way.

whats kuntao?

[fallen_milkman]

http://www.acifa.net/

It's in there. You can search some of my posts on here for more info too.

[Infrazael]

Oom Yung Doe is FAKE. I know of 3 people that take it. It's supposedly 8 martial arts in ONE.

The main instructor (founder), Iron Kim, was told to the students to be on a meditative retreat, when in fact he was actually in jail for tax evasion.

[elbows_and_knees]

I would disagree with the fraudulent claim. Might seem a little cultist to some, though. My teacher is a blackbelt in Shaolin-Do, and a few other systems, and I have fought a few other Shaolin-Do blackbelts. I don't like the art as much as I like kuntao, but I definitely wouldn't call it a bad art. Unless you meant something else by fraudulent? Such as lineage or some such?

I CAN tell you one thing. Many people believe it fraudulent due to a Japanese style belt system. This is only because it supposedly developed in Okinawa when Shaolin trained monks fled China. They adopted Japanese training methods to hide amongst them. Or so I have been told.

No, it's considered fraudulent because of lineage claims and because of the ridiculous stories, like the granmaster doing a flying kick off of an 11 story building.

[Enviroman]

I would disagree with the fraudulent claim. Might seem a little cultist to some, though. My teacher is a blackbelt in Shaolin-Do, and a few other systems, and I have fought a few other Shaolin-Do blackbelts. I don't like the art as much as I like kuntao, but I definitely wouldn't call it a bad art. Unless you meant something else by fraudulent? Such as lineage or some such?

I CAN tell you one thing. Many people believe it fraudulent due to a Japanese style belt system. This is only because it supposedly developed in Okinawa when Shaolin trained monks fled China. They adopted Japanese training methods to hide amongst them. Or so I have been told.

No, it's considered fraudulent because of lineage claims and because of the ridiculous stories, like the granmaster doing a flying kick off of an 11 story building.

Just because you can't do a jump kick off an 11-story building doesn't give you the right to claim they are fraudulent.

[elbows_and_knees]

I know. I'm just jealous.

[fallen_milkman]

Hm. Never heard of that claim. I can understand why it would put a lot of people off. Like I said, I don't care much for the art myself. However, I have a very strong suspicion these are very different lineages of Shaolin-do if they are even the same art form. I can find nothing linking the two on my own.