Adonis Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 You can't just go into the UFC you got to be invited. I say go to the smaller shows around and use your awesome Kung fu against them. You can win! Then you can move up to the UFC and show the world the power of kung fu. Those darn MMA people think only good styles are Boxing,mauy thai (kick boxing), wrestling, and bjj. soon your kung fu will be added to that list. Go get em. I am rooting for you. Remember if Done right no can defend
TJS Posted August 21, 2005 Posted August 21, 2005 To add to my first post i'll say this. Most people are going ot have an opinion on this and they have been stated. But your best bet is to try it out for yourself. Find an ameature MMA event and enter it. that will give you an idea of where you are and what to expect.
BLueDevil Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 I have to agree with karate25, only one way to find out and thats to compete. There is no teacher but the enemy.
elbows_and_knees Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 royce stuided striking as well so he isn't a pure grappler.that's actually not true. I've asked royce himself this. Here was his reply:"I am a bjj stylist. I am NOT a mixed martial artist and don't label myself as one." Oh and chuck lidell is a d-1 wreslter, his kenpo is good because of the help of john hacklemann who runs it more like boxing and works hard on the KO punches. as well as he been studing bjj with John Lewis, marc laimon and many other people. He just recently been with eddie bravo a few times. Eddie bravo isn't his primary instructor he's been with the longest.lidell has been training bjj for the past 7 years. His standup training is more than just kenpo. He was also a thai boxing champ if I remember correctly. he has wrestled most of his life. Your not going to win by pure kung fu alone. Most of the fighters push for bjj, wrestling, and boxing as well as muay thai. thats why it was a mma event. Because people got to cross train as well as phyical and mentail conditioning to get where they need to be.
elbows_and_knees Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 You can't just go into the UFC you got to be invited. I say go to the smaller shows around and use your awesome Kung fu against them. You can win! Then you can move up to the UFC and show the world the power of kung fu. Those darn MMA people think only good styles are Boxing,mauy thai (kick boxing), wrestling, and bjj. soon your kung fu will be added to that list. Go get em. I am rooting for you. Remember if Done right no can defendyou are joking, but there is truth to it. There is a WC school in australia that recently had victories in local mma there. In canada, there is the northern lights taiji school, and there is a guy named sami berik who is pur cma also. None have done any big shows, but they have all been successful in what they have done.
Adonis Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 (edited) So we pretty much agreed on chuck liddel. From what you wrote it was pretty much the same thing you quoted me on. Royce has trained in other disciplines so weather or not he feels that he is pure bjj fighter. I am sure the other arts he studyed had an impact in his fights in some form or the other. Edited August 22, 2005 by Adonis
elbows_and_knees Posted August 25, 2005 Posted August 25, 2005 So we pretty much agreed on chuck liddel. From what you wrote it was pretty much the same thing you quoted me on. Royce has trained in other disciplines so weather or not he feels that he is pure bjj fighter. I am sure the other arts he studyed had an impact in his fights in some form or the other.My disagreement with what you said about liddel is concerning his striking. you are saying that he's a good striker because his kenpo came from a guy who's known for training in a boxing fashion. I say it's not his kenpo, but the fact that he trained and competed in muay thai.Royce, as far as I know, has had nor more than a few months of boxing training - literally. Definitely not enough to no longer not consider him a pure bjj guy. Several of the other gracies cross train, but he does not.
TJS Posted August 26, 2005 Posted August 26, 2005 So we pretty much agreed on chuck liddel. From what you wrote it was pretty much the same thing you quoted me on. Royce has trained in other disciplines so weather or not he feels that he is pure bjj fighter. I am sure the other arts he studyed had an impact in his fights in some form or the other.My disagreement with what you said about liddel is concerning his striking. you are saying that he's a good striker because his kenpo came from a guy who's known for training in a boxing fashion. I say it's not his kenpo, but the fact that he trained and competed in muay thai.Royce, as far as I know, has had nor more than a few months of boxing training - literally. Definitely not enough to no longer not consider him a pure bjj guy. Several of the other gracies cross train, but he does not.Although Royce is about as close to a pure BJJ stlyist as they come these days he has crosstrained a bit. On top of the striking, One of his standup trainers named nono is also a hapkido blackbelt and runs a school in Cali. Royce has worked with him on various aspects of standup and clinch entries.I also wouldent be suprised if he had slipped a little wrestling in there at some point.
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