UFC with kungfu only

[CagedWarrior]

No style, not even BJJ, will let you win the UFC. You must take the most effective techniques and principles from boxing, Muay Thai, BJJ, and wrestling, and other arts to create a sort of "styleless style," without limits.

Bruce Lee would be proud.

I think if you were good enough at your game, a pure BJJ grappler could win a UFC fight. Renzo (or was it Rickson?) held the belt before.

[UseoForce]

Sure, back in the day. Dan Severn won with only wrestling.

But those days are long gone.

[CagedWarrior]

True, but I'd give a few of the Gracie's a chance (not necessarily a great one), and their stand up striking skill isn't much to talk about.

[SubGrappler]

It really depends which Gracies it is you're talking about.

Today's fighters have tremendous skills in all levels of fighting- I was just watching Joe Doerkonson vs Patrick Cote and I couldnt believe how great of a fight it was (and how excellent a defense Cote put up before getting tapped).

Renzo fights in Pride, as do most of the other Gracies (UFC tends to favor strikers a bit more than Pride does).

Bear in mind though that Renzo does alot of work on his standup, which means hes no longer a pure BJJ fighter- hes a mixed martial artist, as is Rodrigo, Daniel, and Ryan Gracie.

Royce and Royler could be considered a better example of a pure BJJ stylist, since neither has particularly good standup ability. With so many wrestlers in the game now, alot of people have too good a takedown defense for someone like Royce or Royler to take them down. Its no longer like the old days of UFC. They can make for a good fight, but its very difficult to pose a threat to someone in MMA today if you cant throw hands nor can you take them down effectively. Its hard to pull guard to make for an offensive fight.

[Adonis]

royce stuided striking as well so he isn't a pure grappler.

YOu wnat to be a fighter you got to go through alot of conditioning, fighters even have sports physcoloigst, nutritionalist and others as well. Not mention intense training schedules.

Oh and chuck lidell is a d-1 wreslter, his kenpo is good because of the help of john hacklemann who runs it more like boxing and works hard on the KO punches. as well as he been studing bjj with John Lewis, marc laimon and many other people. He just recently been with eddie bravo a few times. Eddie bravo isn't his primary instructor he's been with the longest.

Your not going to win by pure kung fu alone. Most of the fighters push for bjj, wrestling, and boxing as well as muay thai. thats why it was a mma event. Because people got to cross train as well as phyical and mentail conditioning to get where they need to be.

[SubGrappler]

royce stuided striking as well so he isn't a pure grappler.

Yes he has, but I dont think his striking is going to be a threat to anyone he fights.

[BLueDevil]

It really depends which Gracies it is you're talking about.

Today's fighters have tremendous skills in all levels of fighting- I was just watching Joe Doerkonson vs Patrick Cote and I couldnt believe how great of a fight it was (and how excellent a defense Cote put up before getting tapped).

Renzo fights in Pride, as do most of the other Gracies (UFC tends to favor strikers a bit more than Pride does).

Bear in mind though that Renzo does alot of work on his standup, which means hes no longer a pure BJJ fighter- hes a mixed martial artist, as is Rodrigo, Daniel, and Ryan Gracie.

Royce and Royler could be considered a better example of a pure BJJ stylist, since neither has particularly good standup ability. With so many wrestlers in the game now, alot of people have too good a takedown defense for someone like Royce or Royler to take them down. Its no longer like the old days of UFC. They can make for a good fight, but its very difficult to pose a threat to someone in MMA today if you cant throw hands nor can you take them down effectively. Its hard to pull guard to make for an offensive fight.

I was rooting for Cote in that fight, he had him, then he just couldnt finish it....Doerkonson(sp?) is quite an amazing fighter in his own right though

[Manabimasho1]

after i master my style of kungfu ( tan-tui and tai-chi praying mantis) i know it takes grapppling work and that is not a problem because they work with me on that.

but i really want to one day be the first to win UFC without useing mixed MA only kungfu what do u guys think, i know it's possible right.... RIGHT.

PEACE

Ummmm Son Goku......you are a MMA lol

Praying Mantis and Tai Chi are two differnt styles

are you taking 7star Praying Mantis or another form?

MMA Means mixed martial arts which means more then one style or system of fighting or martial arts.

[Adonis]

Use your Kung fu. I am rooting for you, I think you would be great!

remember

If done right, no can defend.

[Muaythaiboxer]

i normaly share your opinions Karate25 but here you puzzle me. the fighters today have the sport down to such a science that you can no longer be viable with just one or even two styles. the best Muay thai fighter in the world would lose in the MMA ring as would the best grapler or boxer you need to do MMA to be good at MMA.