UFC with kungfu only

[SubGrappler]

i disagree i think that if it is a well rounded kungfu style (i wouldnt know) and your training it full contact hardcore and your intructors are working with you on grappling then you dont have to seek out a bjj coach or anything like that, train hard do your homework and you could stand a chance, becoming a champion on the other hand im not so sure

Hey no ones saying that it CANT be done, but lets look at this another way.

BJJ/Submission fighters are the best grapplers in the world, bar none. Their supremacy on the ground is unquestionable.

K-1/Boxing fighters are the best strikers in the world, bar none.

Why would you deliberatly go out of your way to train for a particular venue when the most effective training methods and styles have been established. Its like cutting your entire lawn with the weedwacker- sure it can be done, but why the hell wouldnt you just use a lawnmower?

[viskous]

because he wants too.........he never asked for better styles he wanted to know if and how he could make his style work, thats what i told him

[Menjo]

i agree i also find that post very limiting, iam not going to let statistics dictate my martial arts life, not ever

[Daedalus]

The UFC is the beginning of MMA. It's possible to win UFC with just grappeling or just hands (Chuck Liddel did it). No one has won with just kicks ( sorry TKD guys). When you limit your self to just one art like kung fu you are at a disavantage. Learn the best ways to punch, kick and grappel and forget about being kung fu. Compete in ameture wrestling and boxing events. Lift weights. Eat right. Do these things and you'll have a shot at the UFC title.

Actually Chuck Lidell did not do it in any way shape or form. First of all Chuck was a NCAA wrestler. Notice how people have a hard time taking him down? Well it has nothing to do with his Kenpo training that's for sure. Secondly if you would check Eddie Bravo's website you can plainly see pictures of Chuck Liddell learning Brazillian Jiu Jitsu from Eddie Bravo. Also Chuck has extensive kickboxing experience. To say that Chuck Liddell uses only ONE style is absolutely uninformed.

[MMASanDiego]

Thats fine and your perogative, but I hope at the same time you realize you are practicing something less effective.

i agree i also find that post very limiting, iam not going to let statistics dictate my martial arts life, not ever

[MMASanDiego]

Chuck is a division 1 wrestler. In other words, a grappling god. Without his grappling base, Chuck would not have the best take down defense in the UFC and when he is taken down (yes it still occurs), he would not have the skills to stand back up to reclaim his striking skills.

[Enviroman]

i disagree i think that if it is a well rounded kungfu style (i wouldnt know) and your training it full contact hardcore and your intructors are working with you on grappling then you dont have to seek out a bjj coach or anything like that, train hard do your homework and you could stand a chance, becoming a champion on the other hand im not so sure

Hey no ones saying that it CANT be done, but lets look at this another way.

BJJ/Submission fighters are the best grapplers in the world, bar none. Their supremacy on the ground is unquestionable.

K-1/Boxing fighters are the best strikers in the world, bar none.

Why would you deliberatly go out of your way to train for a particular venue when the most effective training methods and styles have been established. Its like cutting your entire lawn with the weedwacker- sure it can be done, but why the hell wouldnt you just use a lawnmower?

Your analogy is more apt if you said "a lawnmower only cuts the large sections of grass while a weed wacker can trim and edge. Why not use both?"

[CagedWarrior]

To sum up, to compete with the stiking abilities of UFCers with kung fu is like hunting a bear with a pistol.

[BLueDevil]

I think there is alot of one dimentional thinking in that Kung Fu could not work. Kung Fu has alot of throws that could work and of course strikes that would work in the UFC. I believe that nobody has stepped up and put kung fu on the MMA map. BBJ fighters and grapplers give off that air that they are the only ones that can win in competition. I dont see what makes Kung Fu less effective than wrestling. They both have strengths and weaknesses. It seems people that say these things have never studied KF extensively, Im not saying that KF is perfect but you have to give it some credit. MMA is about utilizing what works and discarding what doesnt.

[UseoForce]

No style, not even BJJ, will let you win the UFC. You must take the most effective techniques and principles from boxing, Muay Thai, BJJ, and wrestling, and other arts to create a sort of "styleless style," without limits.

Bruce Lee would be proud.