My new theory

[Muaythaiboxer]

whitewarlock you are correct in assuming that i was talking about compitition in a real self defence situation i would still use the boxing stance but i was wondering what you would advocate.

[White Warlock]

I would advocate no stance at all. Just get busy and allow yourself to transition through stances as you perform the necessary damage to remove your enemy(ies) as efficiently as possible. I.e., stances 'telegraph' your intent. It is best to commit the initial assault from 'whatever' position you are in and allow stances to occur while in the process, as opposed to in preparation.

And as to what stance(s) i would be transitioning through, that depends entirely on opportunity, or the windows of opportunity the opposition provides for me.

[ovine king]

White Warlock, are you aquainted with what is known as "the fence"?

[Menjo]

White Warlock, are you aquainted with what is known as "the fence"?

I dont mean to be nosy but id like to know what you mean?

[ovine king]

it is a simple idea based on always having a 'guard' of sorts which no one around you should be aware of because it is natural. It's slightl more complex than that but it isn't a complicated thing.

I've tried to find a link but all I can find are reviews of the book of the same name.

[Menjo]

o ok I see, thank you for clearing that up

[Adonis]

interesting

[Muaythaiboxer]

i have hurd of this but never had the chance to do much research on the subject.

[White Warlock]

Ovine, yes. Goeff Thompson coined the phrase, but the concepts have been around for quite a long time. In fact, i underwent a 'formal' course called P.A.R.T. (which i later instructed) back in 92' (Goeff's book, The Fence was initially written/published in 1998?) that included pretty much what Goeff presents in that book, albeit, P.A.R.T. was geared towards use for medical/mental health facilities, and thus was not directed at 3 second fighting, but at de-escalation.

Anyway, there are 'some' things in The Fence that i do not agree with. It is a popular thought, the idea of putting your hands generally in front of you (a main component in Goeff's fence, and also of P.A.R.T.) to ensure a space between your opponent and you, but i don't like it. I'll get into the specifics as to why i don't like it at a later time.

[Manabimasho1]

Its funny but I didn't see anyone mention Speed as a Factor I did skip page 3 of the posts so I appologize for those there.

I take a very differnt style of Jujitsu called Manabi Masho we express that Speed and Technique and Flow of the movement is better then power and range.

This may seem sick or differnt to some of you but almost all Easter MA is taught that speed is top on the list for training. We also do not chamber punches at all even for hard ones, if you practice this and can get Close Quarter Combat where your literaly chest to chest you can light a person up and eventualy learn a 2-4 inch punch where you hit and instead of drawing back the hand you swing over to another area then another and speed is the factor on this technique.

Just my opinon I have sparred and gotten alot of compliments on my speed with hands. Has for "nearest target" Idea, everyone says that but they go for the knees thighs, torso, or head, When the nearest target is always the hand/fingers/toes/ think about it....