tufrthanu Posted July 9, 2005 Posted July 9, 2005 Ronin perhaps your new instructor and your old instructor could work out a deal? One sends over a black belt to teach a groundfighting class once a week and yours sends over a black belt to teach wushu or boxing? Long Live the Fighters!
ronin.74 Posted July 10, 2005 Author Posted July 10, 2005 In a perfect world that's what would happen Tuf but the old school doesn't have any bb to spare and they're senior guys already teach classes at that location. Also no one at the old school would have any interest in learning anything else besides bjj. Many of the serious students are competition oriented and would not be interested in taking time out from their bjj training to even look at anything else.
tufrthanu Posted July 10, 2005 Posted July 10, 2005 Hmm...well thats a pickle. Forgetting belt color for a second how competent are you at the techniques you know? Long Live the Fighters!
ronin.74 Posted July 10, 2005 Author Posted July 10, 2005 Honestly in many cases I am more knowledgeable when it comes to submissions than most blue belts that I've met. The main difference between myself and a blue belt is that I have just not logged enough mat time to effectively use all the techniques against a resisting opponent (although I'm close), hence the reason I wanted to keep practicing. Besides I would never teach a technique that I myself was not completely familair with. I tried to get them to start a Judo program but they said that in the past their just wasn't enough interest in that either, they would really like to have a Judo program because it is an Olympic sport so I am going to try to keep pushing the issue.
tufrthanu Posted July 10, 2005 Posted July 10, 2005 My suggestion then is given that you seem to have NO other option. You should teach them Judo which you are very familiar with and mix in several of the BJJ techniques with which you are most familiar. You said you had been doing the white belt stuff for 3 years? I would think you would be fairly competent in most of the techniques by that time. I would just try to avoid the pitfall of teaching stuff you've only seen. Or being drawn into teaching something you dont understand by a wayward question from a student. For instance if they say what do we do if they start to apply a choke. If you don't know or know but only so so its probably better to tell them I'm sorry I hadn't learned how to get out of them when I stopped training. Rather than teaching them something that you only know slightly. But I think if you just stick to the basic white belt stuff which you did for 3 years you should be ok. Long Live the Fighters!
elbows_and_knees Posted July 14, 2005 Posted July 14, 2005 Well thats fine if all he wants to teach them is Judo techniques. Otherwise I don't think he should be teaching stuff that he's not supposed to be teaching. For instance I have a bb in TKD and would feel perfectly comfortable teaching newbies that as part of a larger class curriculum. However I wouldn't teach the hapkido yet as I just dont have a large enough grasp of the system to make sure that everything is done properly.but hapkido and tsd are different. A lot of the techniques in judo and bjj are the same. He could create a judo based ground program, and incorporate elements of what he knows of bjj, but isn't practiced much in judo. That would still make it a judo based program, which as a bb, he should be comfortable with.
elbows_and_knees Posted July 14, 2005 Posted July 14, 2005 But I think if you just stick to the basic white belt stuff which you did for 3 years you should be ok.BJJ doesn't really work that way... the same techniques you learn as a white belt are the same ones you will use as a blue, purple, etc. the difference in the ranks is how proficient you become at doing them, and the number of variations you learn to apply them from, due to experience. at white belt, you are learning a lot of techniques and positions. At blue, you are mastering escaping and transitioning and beginng to become more proficient at submission. at purple, you are mastering submission, etc.
Adonis Posted July 15, 2005 Posted July 15, 2005 There is several things you can do. You can teach your own program of Modified Judo (which incorporates the BJJ you learned) Or you can ask your old instructor about there being a school that wants to set up some program and ask to be an affilate of your old instructor. Or you can see if you can help create the program for that school and ask see if your instructor can do seminars at the wushu school. This would be good for both you and your Bjj instructor. Say advertising together with your old school and the one you are at now. IF both owners agree to that. Its cheaper to do dual advertising. Also good for your BJJ instructor to make a little extra cash on the side doing seminars and such.
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