armanox Posted January 3, 2009 Posted January 3, 2009 I fail to see why a student, if they have met all of the requirements and are of skill level for a certain rank, should be held back. "Karate is NOT about the colour of belt you wear it is about the person you become;...to be a good blackbelt is to be humble and respectful amongst other things." -Dobbersky
ninjanurse Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 I fail to see why a student, if they have met all of the requirements and are of skill level for a certain rank, should be held back.Many schools have requirements that include things other than physical skill, i.e., respect, self-discipline, humility, etc. "A Black Belt is only the beginning."Heidi-A student of the artsTae Kwon Do,Shotokan,Ju Jitsu,Modern Arnishttp://the100info.tumblr.com/
Kruczek Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 I think armanox is implying that they meet those requirements too. If I understand him correctly, "Why should anyone be held back to meet a time requirement, if they meet all of the other requirements?"I have no answer. I know a 8th Degree Kyoshi in our style who got his 4th degree black belt after four years. He went from student (White Belt) to 4th degree black belt because Nakazato Sensei said he was ready...so if he can do it I don't know why Green to Brown Belt is an incredible leap lol. Okinawan Karate-Do Institutehttp://okiblog.com
bushido_man96 Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 Joe Lewis earned 3 different black belts in under a year's time....everyone has different capabilities. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
Kruczek Posted January 7, 2009 Posted January 7, 2009 Joe Lewis earned 3 different black belts in under a year's time....everyone has different capabilities.Not to seem ignorant, but there is no way I would ever agree ANYONE is ready to wear a black belt...more less 3 in under a year. Perhaps a year of 6 hour minimum daily training, which is unheard of, and I MIGHT say that is plausible, but I think guys like Joe Lewis are exactly why people are hesitant to double test. Okinawan Karate-Do Institutehttp://okiblog.com
bushido_man96 Posted January 7, 2009 Posted January 7, 2009 It could be.But, he also dominated a tournament circuit for several years, and there were some very good, "legitimate" black belts in there. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
Kruczek Posted January 7, 2009 Posted January 7, 2009 But does being the best fighter make you a black belt? If you can't convey what you have learned to anyone else why do you deserve that rank?I won't pretend that I know anything about Joe Lewis, because I don't, but I do think he brings up my earlier point about needing time to learn all the extra things that come with a blackbelt. Okinawan Karate-Do Institutehttp://okiblog.com
bushido_man96 Posted January 8, 2009 Posted January 8, 2009 But does being the best fighter make you a black belt? If you can't convey what you have learned to anyone else why do you deserve that rank?I won't pretend that I know anything about Joe Lewis, because I don't, but I do think he brings up my earlier point about needing time to learn all the extra things that come with a blackbelt.I'm not claiming that its right or wrong; just putting it out there. https://www.haysgym.comhttp://www.sunyis.com/https://www.aikidoofnorthwestkansas.com
axispower Posted January 8, 2009 Posted January 8, 2009 There will always be some kids that progress more quickly than others. On the other hand, I've seen kids double promoted who should not have been - just as I have seen kids promoted that should not have been. In fact, I can think of half-a-dozen black belts I know whose fundamentals are so bad they should probably be rolled back to orange belt. Unfortunately, far too many instructors have to pull off a balancing act between promoting students too quickly and keeping the parents happy. If a fight is unavoidable hit first, hit hard, and hit the road.
Kruczek Posted January 8, 2009 Posted January 8, 2009 I'm not claiming that its right or wrong; just putting it out there.Very well then, glad to see someone who thinks about all things before making up his mind.too many instructors....keeping the parents happy. Okinawan Karate-Do Institutehttp://okiblog.com
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