Karate_Girl_07 Posted July 2, 2005 Posted July 2, 2005 I've been doing Kyokushin Karate for 2 1/2 years now and my 4th kyu grading is coming up at the end of the summer. I have a written test to write, a biography to write on a prominent figure in IKO and a physical grading that will have an uchi-deshi night as part of it. I know my terminology and most of the history but I still don't know exactly what the "shinden", "shinzen" and the "Shomen" are nor the history behind why we bow to them in the opening and the closing of the class. Please help me. Warai Wa Satori = Laughter is EnlightenmentIkari Wa Muchi = Anger is IgnoranceNaku Wa Shugyo = To Cry is to TrainSosai Mas Oyama
Koji-Kabuto Posted July 3, 2005 Posted July 3, 2005 We bow to satan...Seriously, you bow to the sensei and sosai.
Chirath Posted July 3, 2005 Posted July 3, 2005 Sensei Google comes up with:ShindenShinzen ni (rei) = (Bow) to the alterShomen ni (rei) = (Bow) to the front
y2_sub Posted July 3, 2005 Posted July 3, 2005 We bow to satan... That made me laugh for an hour I presented my first written test at my shodan grading Moon might shine upon the innocent and the guilty alike
belar86 Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 Shomen ni rei = bow to the frontSosai ni rei = bow to the founder of the style Senpai ni rei = bow to the senior gradeSensei ni rei = bow to the teacherShihan ni rei= bow to the masterOtogaini ni rei = bow to each otherYou bow at the start and end of class as a sign of respect for the different people addressed.
Karate_Girl_07 Posted July 4, 2005 Author Posted July 4, 2005 Thanks for the help guys. Warai Wa Satori = Laughter is EnlightenmentIkari Wa Muchi = Anger is IgnoranceNaku Wa Shugyo = To Cry is to TrainSosai Mas Oyama
JimmyNewton Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 good luck "The wise and successsful will always be met with violent opposition by mediocre minds."
Karate_Girl_07 Posted July 8, 2005 Author Posted July 8, 2005 Thanks, I'm probably going to need it, lol. Warai Wa Satori = Laughter is EnlightenmentIkari Wa Muchi = Anger is IgnoranceNaku Wa Shugyo = To Cry is to TrainSosai Mas Oyama
SaiFightsMS Posted July 9, 2005 Posted July 9, 2005 The bowing is a sign of respect - don't leave that out.
Karate_Girl_07 Posted July 9, 2005 Author Posted July 9, 2005 Lol, no, I won't. I knew that we bowed to show respect before now but I just didn't know why we bowed to the Shindin or the shinzen in particular. My Sensei said something once about paying respect to the Buddhist origins of the art I think, but I can't remember it all too clearly. Warai Wa Satori = Laughter is EnlightenmentIkari Wa Muchi = Anger is IgnoranceNaku Wa Shugyo = To Cry is to TrainSosai Mas Oyama
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