aikido a grappling art?

[jedimc]

yeah I've noticed some of the people where I train don't work well if I'm actually using force

Are these people blackbelts or begginers.

[Goju_boi]

yeah I've noticed some of the people where I train don't work well if I'm actually using force

Are these people blackbelts or begginers.

begginers and one brown belt

[White Warlock]

Well then... beginners will obviously have a problem. As to the brown belt, well not all practitioners are qualified to wear the belt they've received.

The reason for my above statements is that if you attempted to utilize force, it should have easily be converted to energy being used against you. To have 'difficulty' with someone using force means they have not grasped the fundamentals of aikido.

As to whether it would work, picture perfect, of course not. As forms do not directly translate into action in a confrontation, aikido practices as well do not. They exist for the same reasons forms, or katas, do... to ensure you grasp the principles underlying the actions that are repeated, ad nauseum.

[NotQuiteDead]

Again, I've never trained in aikido. Just thought I'd make sure that was clear.

The only ground techniques I've seen in aikido were the finishing 'pins' that are done after ikkyo/ikkajo etc. and suwari-waza, which are done when both people are on their knees facing eachother. Are there any aikido techniques for escaping pins commonly seen in other grappling styles?

[weaponless]

There are Aikido techniques for when, or I should say 'if", you end up on your back with the person in the "mount" position. They are actually similar to jiu-jitsu techniques, not exactly, but the same in principle.... but like everything else in Aikido, you are using your opponents force against them.

[Goju_boi]

There are Aikido techniques for when, or I should say 'if", you end up on your back with the person in the "mount" position. They are actually similar to jiu-jitsu techniques, not exactly, but the same in principle.... but like everything else in Aikido, you are using your opponents force against them.

that's what i wanted to know all this time,thank you.

[NotQuiteDead]

There are Aikido techniques for when, or I should say 'if", you end up on your back with the person in the "mount" position. They are actually similar to jiu-jitsu techniques, not exactly, but the same in principle.... but like everything else in Aikido, you are using your opponents force against them.

Can you name a style that emphasises going out of your way to fight force with force?

[Goju_boi]

There are Aikido techniques for when, or I should say 'if", you end up on your back with the person in the "mount" position. They are actually similar to jiu-jitsu techniques, not exactly, but the same in principle.... but like everything else in Aikido, you are using your opponents force against them.

Can you name a style that emphasises going out of your way to fight force with force?

I thought aikido wasn't about usining force against force?

[NotQuiteDead]

I asked weaponless because he seems to think that aikido is the only art that teaches you to go with the opponent's force. It's not.

[Goju_boi]

So Hapkido also teaches you to go with your opponents force?