Bon Posted March 8, 2002 Posted March 8, 2002 Heh, goddamn.. Can you say owned ? It takes sacrifice to be the best.There are always two choices, two paths to take. One is easy. And its only reward is that it's easy.
Angus Posted March 8, 2002 Posted March 8, 2002 Chang - there's a difference between easy training, hard training, and stupid training... Hard training is hard and physical and u gety maximum benefits, but it can also be stupid if u do all the old things such as deep squats which are no good for your knees. Us scientific people aren't looking for an easy way out, we still want the hard work, we just don't wanna have stuffed backs and knees at the age of 35. I've seen some traditional stretching stuff and ways of training and it's just stupid. A lot of the horse stance for 2 hours stuff is just crap, it's gonna damage your joins... If u feel pain during exercises then u are hurting yourself, but if u get the 'burn' then u know that u are training more accurately... Hard to explain but there it is, Angus Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear, not absence of fear.
ChangWuJi Posted March 8, 2002 Posted March 8, 2002 What the crap are you talking about? Didn't I say that i train using modern methods also? I have a weight machine,stationary bike, and a treadmill in my house for crying out loud! I CLEARLY said that I was against your post that basically said traditional horse stance training was useless and harmful. Can you read? Gosh i hate getting into it with someone and they aren't paying attention to what i'm saying. You're just rambling on and on. Ok pay attention to the next paragraph. My problem was with you basically saying that horse stances for 2 hours were for nothing more than showing that you could squat for a long time and that they were damaging to your joints. BTW Angus, wouldn't full contact training of toddlers fall into your category of traditional and dangerous? Wouldn't hitting your shins and elbows on banana trees or other hard objects in Muy Thai fashion (explaining why Muy Thai fighters have short careers) be dangerous to your health? Isnt that putting the kids joints and bodies in danger? Make up your mind. "There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you. A man must constantly exceed his level."
spinninggumby Posted March 8, 2002 Posted March 8, 2002 If u scroll up back to my very first original post, you will notice that I specified that I was exaggerating when using the '2 hour horse stance' reference as an example. Not to mention that I 'realize' that the horse stance is not used just to show off squatting and various methods of taking a sh*t. Obviously you did not see thru that the first time hehehehe LOL You are getting angry. Angry is a sign of weakness and loss of control and rational thinking. Ur vocabulary becomes more simple and sentences more terse. Calm down Chang. I liked u better when you actually tried to make sense LOL Don't get frustrated or let this ruin your weekend b/c of some guy on a forum who doesn't agree with you haha. You can call my words rambling, if that will make it easier on your mind rather than actually understand or comprehend what I have to say. Peace! :grin: [ This Message was edited by: spinninggumby on 2002-03-08 00:24 ] 'Conviction is a luxury for those on the sidelines'William Parcher, 'A BEAUTIFUL MIND'
Angus Posted March 8, 2002 Posted March 8, 2002 I am sorry, i did not read your entire post, too tired... I don't train toddlers, i don't think they should have any formal martial arts training until at least 10 - and i don't kick banana trees, i kick heavy bags... Kicking a banana tree is dumbstupiddumb. I'm too tired and really not in the mood for searchin but didn't u sy before that u like training in the trad arts and doing it the trad way? That was kinda what i was getting at, that the trad doods do it kinda badly. I'm shtupped, Angus Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear, not absence of fear.
ChangWuJi Posted March 8, 2002 Posted March 8, 2002 On 2002-03-08 00:19, spinninggumby wrote: If u scroll up back to my very first original post, you will notice that I specified that I was exaggerating when using the '2 hour horse stance' reference as an example. Not to mention that I 'realize' that the horse stance is not used just to show off squatting and various methods of taking a sh*t. Obviously you did not see thru that the first time hehehehe LOL You are getting angry. Angry is a sign of weakness and loss of control and rational thinking. Ur vocabulary becomes more simple and sentences more terse. Calm down Chang. I liked u better when you actually tried to make sense LOL Don't get frustrated or let this ruin your weekend b/c of some guy on a forum who doesn't agree with you haha. You can call my words rambling, if that will make it easier on your mind rather than actually understand or comprehend what I have to say. Peace! :grin: [ This Message was edited by: spinninggumby on 2002-03-08 00:24 ] Ok Now you're using what I said to you about understanding/comprahension against me:lol: You really need to start making up your own post. The Kwai Chang Kaine act is really good for a laugh, but you still aren't answering anything I bring up. You know, these enormous leaps in your logic. How could you ruin my wekend? I do't even think about you until i see that you've replied And you're talking about someones vocabulary becoming simple?? You're using 'u' instead of 'you, and 'Ur' insteatd pf 'your' . Is that what you meat by becoming simple? 'thru' for through? Your "very first original post" hahaha. Go home kid. Preach your nonsense to rookies. If you're arguing a point, you don't just start making judgements on the other persons mood and sentence structure. Argue your damn point! "There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you. A man must constantly exceed his level."
spinninggumby Posted March 8, 2002 Posted March 8, 2002 okie dokie Changie boy. Somewhere along the line of your traditional training, didn't your sifu/instructor teach you tolerance and calmness? How strong can you be if a few posts are able to put you off sooooooo much. Obviously my provoking has worked towards such a feeble and insecure soul as yours. People who are secure don't get miffed so easily!! It's not wise to engage in a conflict with a mind filled with anger and clouded judgment. It's been a pleasure talking to ya btw doesn't it piss you off that even though I am using such cheesy Kwai Chang Caine remarks, that they are still getting to you? hehehehehe Don't let it happen! It would be bad if you were affected by verbal techniques that ironically correlate with the martial movements that, in your eyes, are useless and a waste of time: Fancy aesthetic expression with, in your opinion, little or no weight/significance and/or practical value. bottom line: since u insist that you ALSO use modern training as well as traditional training, then I assume that you do see the value in some aspects of modern practice. So our disagreement is over a little petty horse stance, okie dokie So we will just have to part ways accepting the fact that you feel that a 2 hour horse stance is just fine and better than anything we could possibly do and I believe that there are much better ways to condition your legs. Period. Gotta go now. Pop tarts are burning and I am very hungry! [ This Message was edited by: spinninggumby on 2002-03-08 18:16 ] [ This Message was edited by: spinninggumby on 2002-03-08 18:48 ] 'Conviction is a luxury for those on the sidelines'William Parcher, 'A BEAUTIFUL MIND'
Angus Posted March 9, 2002 Posted March 9, 2002 Gees gumby, you're attacking someone else and even I'M getting annoyed with u... Enough of the bickering or i'll delete the posts and close the thread. Angus Courage is resistance to fear, mastery of fear, not absence of fear.
spinninggumby Posted March 9, 2002 Posted March 9, 2002 Wow, I even managed to annoy the great Angus. :razz: 'Conviction is a luxury for those on the sidelines'William Parcher, 'A BEAUTIFUL MIND'
ChangWuJi Posted March 9, 2002 Posted March 9, 2002 No hard feelings guys. I guess some of us aree to disagree. But I would like to add, do the training that suits you, you enjoy most, and see results the most. [ This Message was edited by: ChangWuJi on 2002-03-08 21:20 ] "There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you. A man must constantly exceed his level."
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