wingedsoldier Posted June 23, 2005 Posted June 23, 2005 both styles are great but in a fight, would the lack of ground work in kickboxing bring it down?
glockmeister Posted June 23, 2005 Posted June 23, 2005 In my experience in fights? No. "You know the best thing about pain? It let's you know you're not dead yet!"http://geshmacheyid.forumotion.com/f14-self-defense
UseoForce Posted June 23, 2005 Posted June 23, 2005 Can someone give me a little background on kenpo? Is it different than kempo? My current limited understanding is that it is similar to others styles of karate but has more locks, throws, etc. By the way, you can't compare kenpo/kempo to kickboxing without mentioning Chuck Liddell. If it works, use it!If not, throw it out!
Sam Posted June 24, 2005 Posted June 24, 2005 arent they just different spellings?! or am i just being sillly
y2_sub Posted June 24, 2005 Posted June 24, 2005 just different spellings .. Kenpo = Kempo as far as i know What are the kenpo competition rules anyway ?? Moon might shine upon the innocent and the guilty alike
Kajukenbopr Posted June 24, 2005 Posted June 24, 2005 Kenpo trains a bit more street- its more self-defense oriented. it has fast and strong punches, low kicks, locks, takedowns, and throws like in Karate.Kickboxing tends to go for sports. The same punches as in boxing, combined with kicks like Tae Kwon Do. Although both train to fight, kenpo does tend to be harder than Kickboxing, Mixing various hits that make any combination a devastating combo. <> Be humble, train hard, fight dirty
UseoForce Posted June 24, 2005 Posted June 24, 2005 Can you use throws in kenpo competition? If it works, use it!If not, throw it out!
EndlessDave Posted June 25, 2005 Posted June 25, 2005 I've been doing Nick Cerio's Kenpo for a while now (related to Ed Parker's). My school has never been involved in any tournaments. The focus is on practical self defense, so we perform techniques such as eye gouges and breaks fairly often.NCK is a composite of techniques mostly from karate, ju jutsu, and K.S. Chow's kenpo. It consists mostly of hand techniques, and of its few kicks almost none are higher than the solar plexus (the two basic kicks are front kick to the solar plexus and rising instep kick to the groin). Its self defense techniques as defenses against a variety of techniques from your basic punches to bear hugs, headlocks, and wrist and lapel grabs. The difference between kenpo and kempo, as far as I have read, is fairly insignificant. It is ultimately just a spelling difference (there is, I am told, a particular japanese character that normally stands for an N sound, but when followed by a P sound becomes an M sound - so both are pronounced "kempo"). I have read that schools that use the "kenpo" spelling are usually modern self defense oriented systems (like mine) while schools that use the spelling "kempo" are usually more traditional systems. I've never been able to verify that myself though.As far as a kickboxer versus a kenpo student? I hate to see this, but it depends on a lot, mostly the two martial artists and the context. In the ring, a kickboxer would probably win most of the time. The rules are set up to favor him, and the purpose of the encounter more closely match the kickboxer's training (winning in the ring, rather than self defense). On the street, I'd say the kickboxer still has a pretty big advantage, mostly because most sport martial artists train physically a lot more, and also because someone who did ONLY kenpo as their martial art would have trouble defending against tough kicks. Kenpo (NCK at least) is mostly designed as a self defense system, and its techniques more often than not have an unskilled attacker in mind.My 2 cents.
tsdtony Posted June 25, 2005 Posted June 25, 2005 kenpo-chiness and kempo=japanes and american.Thay are worlds appart completly diffrent.no thay are not prononced the same one has a long m sound and one is pronocend with a short n sound.you will see difrence in the art but youll also see simalartes.As far as i can tell kenpo uses more hand tecniqes than kempo and.Kempo tends to use more joint locks and breaking moves.
parkerlineage Posted June 26, 2005 Posted June 26, 2005 kenpo-chiness and kempo=japanes and americanKempo and Kenpo are the same thing - Kempo is the litteral translation from the Kanji. Chuan Fa is Chinese.Kenpo also doesn't have a whole lot of ground fighting techniques, so I don't think that would be an issue.Peace;Parkerlineage American Kenpo Karate- First Degree Black Belt"He who hesitates, meditates in a horizontal position."Ed Parker
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