j1123s Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 I'm returning to Karate after a few years off. In my area there is an Enshin Dojo and there is a Shorin Ryu Dojo. Both are very good, I've checked them out. Question: Which style would provide the best all around system for self defense on the street? I know no system is complete in all respects. I have been training in Aikijutusu for years, so I have a good base of throwing and grappleing skills.Enshin seems tough but, seems to put most of it's effort into tournament type fighting. I'm wondering if there might be more options in the bunkai of the shorin ryu kata. The Shorin Ryu dojo does seem to train tough with some hard contact in the middle kyu ranks and up. What do you think?Thanks.
Chirath Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 Both are extremely good. But I would go with Enshin, as full contact sparring will give you excellent stamina and conditioning for a street fight. You will also get use to pain. And the grappling side of Enshin will be very useful on the street and should be easy to learn, as you have previous experience. Not to say Shorin Ryu doesn't have grappling though. You may also get the chance to compete in the Sabaki Challenge What ever you decide Im sure you will be pleased. As Shorin Ryu bunkai is top notch for street defence. Even though Kyokushin is mainly Naha Te. I prefer Shuri Te katas as they contain more street/self defence moves.
JimmyNewton Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 i would say Shorin Ryu.the fighting, techniques and kata should be extermely sudfficent for you.i don;t know much about enshi though, and considering i have been involved in shorin ryu for years, i am somewhat biased. "The wise and successsful will always be met with violent opposition by mediocre minds."
Eiichi Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 (edited) Shorin Ryu is one of the four original styles in Okinawan Karate. It has a much richer history behind it. Enshin is Kyokushin based w/ plenty of grappling and sabaki. I trained in Enshin for a little while under Tomiyama Sensei ('92 sabaki middleweight champion) and their kumite is very impressive, but it lacks strong basics (kihon). In Enshin you'll develope your kumite skills much faster, but if you do Shorin you'll develope strong basics. I would personally go with Shorin Ryu, because it's a type of karate you can do for the rest of your life. Enshin, koykushin, Oyama, etc. is very good for younger people, but as you get older, you won't always be able to train and compete like you once did. If all you care about is fighting, then go w/ Enshin. If you care about learning true budo, then go with Shorin Ryu. Edited June 16, 2005 by Eiichi "The true essence of karate, the perfection or ideal for which we strive, cannot be expressed or passed on through the spoken or written word. It is intangible in nature" Chojun Miyagi
Shorinryu Sensei Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 Hmmmnm..tough decision.But I'd go shorin ryu every time. My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!"
j1123s Posted June 17, 2005 Author Posted June 17, 2005 Thank you for your replys.I like Enshin and respect Kancho Ninomiya, but I feel the Shorin Ryu is more well rounded for me. J1123s
JimmyNewton Posted June 22, 2005 Posted June 22, 2005 glad to hear your decision "The wise and successsful will always be met with violent opposition by mediocre minds."
unknownstyle Posted September 8, 2005 Posted September 8, 2005 shorin ryu all the way "Live life easy and peacefully, but when it is time to fight become ferocious."
kyospirit Posted September 8, 2005 Posted September 8, 2005 Good luck with your practice ! https://www.contactkicks.com
Jay Posted September 8, 2005 Posted September 8, 2005 what exactly is ensuin?? The key to everything is continuity achieved by discipline.
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