Iron Forearm?

[Threads of Fate]

Do the same concepts and training that are in Iron Palm, apply in Iron Forearm in the same way or something slightly different?

[granmasterchen]

from the training I do with Iron Forearm, we most work on "forte" training.

where you stand across from you partner and you slam your forearms against each other like you are both doing and inside forearm block coming from the outside of the body. You smack forearms over and over again for hours. At first your arms will get red, bruised and very sore, but you gradually work your way up and hitting harder and gaining more power in your blocks. This way your blocks are or will eventually be powerful enough to break bones when you apply the "snap" into your block.

The second level that we went to in the training that I did consisted of going up into the mountains. We got a 50 lbs log, tied rope around it, tied the opposite end around a branch of a tree. One person would walk up a hill located on one side of the tree and then swing the log down towards the person on the opposite end. This person would have to block the incoming log with his forearm blocks. This taught a couple things;

1. to condition your arms for the incoming force of blocks

2. to injure your opponent with the power of your blocks

and

3. in case you miss the block, you get hit in the chest which trains you to take hits to the body, which was also a part of our iron body training. We trained in the entire iron body conditioning and to the extreme, so I do not recommend this type of training for those that new to the art only to those with several years in the art and with a master their to give you proper guidance and training.

-also, in case you do do this, at the midway point of the log's swing, it accelerates very quickly up to you!

[Akemoshi]

Iron Palm deals with chi flow, and excerting extreme amounts of chi through your palm with little or no physical movement. hence the "one inch punch" or so i thought? i there a difference? if not, then how can you get the "Iron Forearm" that name? I understand why you would call it "Iron Forearm", for petes sake, you're blocking a falling log with your forearm. But please, could someone explain if they're somehow connected (Iron palm and Iron Forearm)?

[sanj]

I want to know what type of metal can be broken with Iron Forearm- and how long does this take? Also, Iron palm does involve Iron Forearm too?

[granmasterchen]

i always thought that the word "iron" was given to any part of the body that would be used for the purposes of breaking a material. Examples would be iron fist when breaking with your fist, iron palm for breaking with a palm strike, iron shirt when you break the haft of a spear being pressed into your skin, and so. So in that aspect is how we did our iron body training and conditioning and how iron forearms would work into that formula.

[KF Dude]

I want to know what type of metal can be broken with Iron Forearm- and how long does this take? Also, Iron palm does involve Iron Forearm too?

Don't take the iron meaning literally. Conditioning is intended for impact against another human body.

Iron bridge is part of the curriculum in most southern systems. This starts from day one of training with partner arm banging.

Iron palm does not involve the forearm.

[TigerDude]

Iron Palm deals with chi flow,

It's just a tough, strong palm strike. One inch punches are the same - it's just body mechanics.

[KF Dude]

Iron Palm deals with chi flow,

It's just a tough, strong palm strike. One inch punches are the same - it's just body mechanics.

There is a difference.

Iron palm is a specific training. The internal side makes it more that just a strong palm strike. The penetrating power of IP is the result of both external & internal methods.

Inch power is type of ging.

[TigerDude]

Internal/external - it's all body mechanics. If it helps you to visualize power as an inner energy flow, fine, but it's really just simple physics.

[KF Dude]

Internal/external - it's all body mechanics. If it helps you to visualize power as an inner energy flow, fine, but it's really just simple physics.

There's a synergistic effect when external & internal methods are combined. I guess it comes down to a belief in chi. If simple physics could explain it then there wouldn't be so much of a debate of it's existence.