A 4th degree in how many arts?!!!

[Sam]

lol he died from over exertion - he couldnt sleep becuse of all teh training

[Goju_boi]

lol he died from over exertion - he couldnt sleep becuse of all teh training

so u guys do remember him

[Sam]

sort of yeah.... there have been a lot of discussions about people with rediculous numbers of belts in loads of different arts...

[Aodhan]

sort of yeah.... there have been a lot of discussions about people with rediculous numbers of belts in loads of different arts...

Hey, Sam-

Just a momentary hijack: Did you ever get my PM about the ATA school in England? Just curious...

Aodhan

[granmasterchen]

it's possible, depending on the styles....many factors can apply

[granmasterchen]

for example:

he "could" be a 4th degree in a style....let's say shotokan karate....

with the knowledge that he gained from shotokan he could simply have went to another karate school and quickly tested for black belt in that style....let's face it, if you reach that level of competency in a one style and you go to a new style that is VERY similar, you could quickly get the rank of 1st degree as well.

many styles like shotokan are similar to other forms of karate, think of how many different styles of karate there are to choose from. Also, tangsoodo is very similar as well. Then you have the whole aspect of TKD to look at, ITF and WTF, along with all the new variations that have been created in the US, if he had an instructor that taught several styles he could have quickly received these blackbelt ranks due to the fact that he not only had familiarity in his instructor's corriculum but also the fact that he knew the instructor, after all the years that it would have taken to reach that level of 4th degree he could then basically be given the ranks by his instructor since they are most likely friends at that point.....again we come back to the question of the instructor that gives out this rank, he could be running several mcdojos or the student could just have this rank in several styles that are very similar.....but to have a black belt rank in several styles that are very different is something else entirely....if he was to say that he holds the rank of black belt in kung fu, karate, kuksoolwon, aikido and judo.....well that would be VERY hard to believe....especially at the age of 25.....

[Goju_boi]

but they guy I was just talking about practiced very different styles,like wing chun,karate,escrima ,jiu-jiutsu,and so forth

[karate_woman]

Theoretically, at 25 he "may" have ranked up to 4th dan, if he started pretty young (others did the math in earlier posts), and at that age may even have ranks in other similar arts.

Where the story starts to fall apart is that his knowledge isn't there. There should be some degree of similarity between, the basics in for example, japanese, or okinawan arts.

We had a guy come and train with us after a 20 year lay off, and SWITCH STYLES from Wado Ryu to Goju Ryu and his basic techniques were still quite good. He had to learn all of our kata, but his practical knowledge and basics were good; you could tell he'd earned his black belt way back when. Also, when he did his new kata, he did them like an advanced/black belt (mainly talking about kime here). It took him about 1.5 years minimum to learn them all and earn his Shodan with us; we didn't make him go through the entire ranking system again.

We've also had other people who come in claiming to be certain ranks, and after being observed, were clearly not at that level. Sensei judges on a case by case basis, and asks for certificates as well as his own observation and gut feeling.

Of course, the guy could always have joined several McDojo's, and "earned"/bought his rank that way....

[Sam]

aodhan - nope i got a report to say id got it but then it disappeare.... resend??!

Where u from anyways?

back on topic i guess it is possible but as said he would just be living MA for his entire lfie.

[parkerlineage]

Random crazy thought I just realized - I could be a fourth dan by 25.

Anywho...