Training Methodology

[elbows_and_knees]

I dont know why you're making counterpoints to what im saying - we're generally in agreement.... i agree that full contact is a very good and very necessary part of training..... you miss the idea of theory regarding knifehand.... i can practice other similar strikes in a full contact environment, personally i wouldnt choose to use it in full contact any way.... i was just trying ot give an example - there is no real substitute for ful lcontact training.

we're in agreement for the most part, but I disagree with the two things I quoted. It just so happens that the example of the knifehand is a perfect example of why you NEED to spar, which is why I responded to that one - it's an example of theory vs application.

[Sam]

youactually missed my point with two quotes though.... i was just saying its possible to train for those techniques... using the excuse "their too deadly" is wrong.... all technqiues are trainable - split them down, ive made posts on this before so im not going to go into great detail.

and i didnt say the knifehand was viable - all im saying is a knifehand to the throat will be effective - i personally woudlnt use it. The move it self if landed is effective..... i didnt say much about getting it to land, i was just disagreeing with people who say "you;ve not used it how do you know the move would work" - the move would.... whether you have the skill to apply it successfully and hit a target moving and attacking oyu is another matter.

Like i told you, we were in agreement...... i think its pointless using moves if you're not going to practice them - but then again i think almost all moves are practicable; i think that its possible to know whether a certain strike will work without practicing it - whether you personally coudl get it to work in a tight situation is another matter.....

[Adonis]

Nice post sam

[Sam]

thanks.... that particular post of mine seems to be something i keep repeating.... not what you train in but how you train....

[elbows_and_knees]

true, but if what you train dictates how you train, then it can matter. It's a small line that a lot of people don't see. using a thai boxer for example, they are the way they are because of how they train, as you are saying. BUT, they train that way because the style dictates that they do. Not all MA styles are like that. So, in that sense, it very well can be what you train.

And yeah, I missed what you were saying above - we do agree on that.

[elbows_and_knees]

here's a quote from another thread that kind of illustrates what I was talking about:

3. Its an art to each his own do what works for you

that was in response to how a person training karate should train - that you generically train in a manner that works for you. The problem is that most people aren't gonna put in even half of the effort that they are capable of. With some styles, this is taken care of for you. IMO, that's how it should be in regards to training.

[Sam]

yes but teh training methods can be applied to any style....