My critisism of NHB/mma events

[CagedWarrior]

The lesson we should all take away from MMA fights is that, especially now that people have evolved to the point of fighting one anothers' styles, grappling and striking are both important. If it comes to one or the other, grappling wins most of the time- but both are important. Randy Couture is the best ground 'n pounder in the UFC, thanks to his wrestling background and now his BJJ training. But that wouldn't matter if he wasn't a good enouth striker to get his takedowns. Chuck Lidell is easily the best striker in the UFC, but that wouldn't matter if he wasn't an all american wrestler who can defend take downs maybe better than anyone else. The game in the cage now is to know both, or someone else will beat you.

Another point people should think about: so fishhooks and eye gouges and biting aren't allowed in the cage anymore. So what? Between a boxer and some other guy, who is more likely to land blows? The boxer. With that said, in the street fight scenerio, if the boxer desires, he'd therefore be more likely to be able to eyegouge the other guy if he wanted, or fishhook, or chop is throat, etc. Or, a BJJ blackbelt vs. some wing chun nobody- on the ground, who is more likely to be in a better position to bite, eyegouge, grab the nuts, etc. The BJJer of course! He knows the ground game, he can do more submissions than you've ever heard of, escapes, sweeps, and is better at getting to a dominant postition, and when he has you in his guard or he's mounted you, if he wants, he can bite you easier than you can bite him.

In a way, the rules (although there are too many these days) have shown us what arts are the best to learn even without the dirty techniques which, let's all be honest here, don't require much any training to do. I never needed a formal martial arts lesson to learn how to bite a guys neck, stick my thumb in his eye, or whatever. I did in taking the guy to the ground, securing side control, and so on.

[Adonis]

actually a good JKD guy I think the name is spelled Sharram musavi teach in arizona. He is one of Wellington "Megaton" Diez (3rd degree black belt under Rickson or Royler gracie)

actually teaches those types of self defense moves as well. He would use raw steak meat and put a shirt on it and teach how to bite. Yeah you may not be taught how to do those stuff and still do them. BUt there are ways to do them to get more effective results. bitting with the front upper teath depends on what body part you bite with if the person pushes back into your teach hard can break your tooth. if you bite with the sides of the teath more designed to break down and tear Meat you can create a better more damaging effect. You bite and turn your head causing a tearing motion in the flesh you bite. create more damage as opposed to just biting down and then releasing or holding onto the bite.

All this info I got from an aqaintence who went to one of sharrams seminars. Stuff he told that sharram teaches does make since though.

Any way I wondered about that. I know some people don't train those tactics there for don't use them. As appposed to some people can think they are just dirty tactics to use. Like the old elementry days were if you did any thing but punch your considered using sissy tactics. So some people have that mental hang up. Or they just don't want to hurt the person that bad they are going a

against. I wonder if trhat happend in the early UFC.

As well as if some one was more trained on those tactics how it would fear now with trained fighters now adays how it would change the game and certain postions fighters use on the ground.

Take for example in Pride where where a fighter is postioned on all fours or turled up. So you knee the head in the downed apponted. When later on in pride they allowed that tactic Silva has ko'ed and used that technique effectively on grapplers who would shoot in on him and he would sprawl and kneed on the head. Coleman has ko'ed some one the same way. As well as I believe igor won his fight against Kerr doing the same technique. (correct me if I was wrong about the kerr and Igor fight on that one)

So that illustrates the change of the game when some one like sakraba who went for single leg take downs and shot in alot now has to worry about a fighter sprawling and throwing knee's to his head were before he can wait comfortablly and get a single leg from that postion of "of all fours" also called (turtle) postion or he apponent tries to take his back and he does well in reversing the situation.

[Adonis]

well my biggest thing against mma/nhb events is some of the events don't serve beer I heard.

which stinks if you watched a crapy fights al night. But no matter how crappy the fights the beer just makes the events seem better.

[y2_sub]

well my biggest thing against mma/nhb events is some of the events don't serve beer I heard.

which stinks if you watched a crapy fights al night. But no matter how crappy the fights the beer just makes the events seem better.

Sounds resonable , lol..

I agree with the original post