BMmonk Posted June 22, 2005 Posted June 22, 2005 Well a better perspective is like this. WHen you strengthen your body to become solid what you are doing is protecting every nerve in your body. Take for example this, Im sure you've heard of people doing hitting exercises to kill the nerve endings , so they dont feel pain yada yada yada. To me that just sounds like uneccesary. One thing i was taught prior to my training was that conditioning ones body was not about hitting yourself more times then you can imagine only to tell yourself that it will numb after a while, but to protect one main central muscle. Your Brain is your main central Muscle. NOw it came to me as odd because i used to think that if you hit yourself enough eventually you will build a tolerance and numb out the pain, now to some degree that is true. BUt the whole body is centered around your brain because it tells you what to feel and how to feel, and how to move and react etc etc. Each signal tells you mind what it feels, thus your mind will always be working. But for every time you damage your nerve endings, a signal is sent from the nerve to the brain telling you that something is being damaged and causing your brain to stop function in a particular area. If that signal dies how will your brain tell you to avoid getting hit there again? It won't because your just going to end up taking the beating. Example if you keep hitting your right shin and knee, you later then build a tolerance yes. But the fact that your mind will not register movement may be hindered. Lets say you are fighting in a tournament and your opponent hits you in that area, sure you can take the hit. But now how does your mind tell you to counteract with the same leg and deliver a counter attack that can be extremely explosive? It sometimes does and sometimes doesnt react. Point is Its ok to condition a body to be rock hard and strong, but keep in mind the science of the human body also. and how they work.
Sam Posted June 22, 2005 Posted June 22, 2005 actually as far as tripping and counter attacking etc goes, the body's spatial awareness should take care of it, but i agree having toughened up by destroying the nevers wont help.
BMmonk Posted June 22, 2005 Posted June 22, 2005 I agree with you as well, your other senses should be able to counteract other ways as well.I've been trained alot different from what people train here in the states. Im sure you yourself have trained rigorously hard in certain ways to attain your bodys tolerance of pain and i respect that.I guess you can say i like to be careful when i fight and having the least amount of damage put upon me. What is funny is when i see how some kids or even adults train in these McDojos and can't even take a hit and when they do they nearly cough up a lung cus they got kicked in the stomach to hard or they start getting whiney about how they got kicked in teh arm or leg.
Sam Posted June 23, 2005 Posted June 23, 2005 I agree - its important to condition both muscle and nerves... Also the example you gave about shins i mostly agreed with anyway.I prefer nerve condition for boney attacking tools as you dont actually need the nerves in your knuckles.Whereas muscular condition is necessary for body blows, cos i really cant think of a way of killing off the feeling in my body without some serious pains along the way.....I agree bout the mcdojos thing.... but you get it all over, people who train with "tagging" methods in sparring and dont complement that with any conditioning, seem to just collapse from blows....
Qui Gon Tzu Posted July 21, 2005 Posted July 21, 2005 No matter what style of martial art you train in, your ability to perform on the street is determined by the frequency and intensity of your training. It really comes down to the perserverence of the individual, and his/her desire to improve their ability and knowledge.I concur, however, always keep in mind that one is only as good as the exact moment in time that you are in. That is, one my have superior abilities to their opponent, however, you just do not feel right at the time, things are not going well and the opponent gets through the defenses…. “Evil cannot be conquered in the world, it can only be resisted within one’s self.” – Master PoMy Cup is Empty
Muaythaiboxer Posted July 26, 2005 Posted July 26, 2005 lol one time at a opean tournament i thai kicked a guy in the ribs and he started to cry just proves how much good a mcdojo will do you Fist visible Strike invisible
ClA Posted July 26, 2005 Posted July 26, 2005 hey xxaznboii207xx i m learning white crane in sf chinatown 2 whats the name of ur dojo? wondering if its the same one. of corse it can win in a street fight!Hey, I am from San Francisco too. Want to come out and maybe share our art a little??
ClA Posted July 26, 2005 Posted July 26, 2005 lol one time at a opean tournament i thai kicked a guy in the ribs and he started to cry just proves how much good a mcdojo will do you Thai kicks can hurt a lot..........really need to becareful man.
Adonis Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 not really if your not exposed to how to take the hit then your just abusing your body.
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